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Old 06-17-2013, 01:01 AM
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I PRAY you get $90K...you've got some nice mods but as we all know mods are typically subjective as to how they impact price, car looks great and I'm sure crazy fast, good luck...

I've not been on this site for a while but curious to hear what you guys think these cars would fetch if they were stock. Hope that question didn't break any rules or **** off the original posting member...I'm just curious so forgive me if that is the case...Regardless of the numbers thrown out whenever you guys respond it seems like these cars are going up stream in 2013...amazing!
Old 06-17-2013, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Bklyn964Turbo

I've not been on this site for a while but curious to hear what you guys think these cars would fetch if they were stock. Hope that question didn't break any rules or **** off the original posting member...I'm just curious so forgive me if that is the case...Regardless of the numbers thrown out whenever you guys respond it seems like these cars are going up stream in 2013...amazing!
Personally, I believe a stock (or a car with easily reversible mods) should fetch more than highly modified cars, if the buyer is looking for low mileage…which also usually translates to originality as well.

To be clear, I'm not suggesting that the OP's car is highly modified, or otherwise...which the term “highly modified” is subjective.

To the OP – your car looks amazing and I sincerely hope that you get your ask.
Old 06-17-2013, 05:55 PM
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Interesting.....

My car reads identically to yours but is a 3.6 and has a K27HF, raff leather instead of sport seats and speedlines. It would be interesting to see if you get your price. If you see $90k I am not sure what mine would fetch but I guess a bit more..... that would be nice.

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Old 06-17-2013, 06:22 PM
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I think he could get that price if he sells it abroad ie Germany, I've seen low mileage 964 T 3.3's around the high 70,000 EUR.
Old 06-17-2013, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by cobalt
Interesting.....

My car reads identically to yours but is a 3.6 and has a K27HF, raff leather instead of sport seats and speedlines. It would be interesting to see if you get your price. If you see $90k I am not sure what mine would fetch but I guess a bit more..... that would be nice.

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You car is worth more than $100,000 alone due to having a Cobalt Colour and low miles.
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Thanks.

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Old 06-18-2013, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by MeanMachine
You car is worth more than $100,000 alone due to having a Cobalt Colour and low miles.
I know the market is changing but it is hard to fathom how quickly. I have been offered $80k for my car multiple times over the past 5 years or so and as recently as last year I turned down $84k but they would never go a penny more now it seems $100k is an easy number to ask.

A year ago I might have considered $100k for it but as the market goes up so does my price, it would be far to hard to part with at any price and I find there is very little I would consider a worthy replacement, even at double that number.
Old 06-18-2013, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by cobalt
I know the market is changing but it is hard to fathom how quickly. I have been offered $80k for my car multiple times over the past 5 years or so and as recently as last year I turned down $84k but they would never go a penny more now it seems $100k is an easy number to ask.
Anthony, what is the market outlook for your other two cars? Are you seeing significant appreciation on them also?

As for the stock vs. modified debate, good luck finding a stock 3.3 T, either a 930 or a 965, at this point. Both have been "owner engineered" to improve response and appearance. It seems like potential buyers are not being fussy about bolt-on mods at this point.
Old 06-18-2013, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by cobalt
I know the market is changing but it is hard to fathom how quickly. I have been offered $80k for my car multiple times over the past 5 years or so and as recently as last year I turned down $84k but they would never go a penny more now it seems $100k is an easy number to ask.

A year ago I might have considered $100k for it but as the market goes up so does my price, it would be far to hard to part with at any price and I find there is very little I would consider a worthy replacement, even at double that number.
Me too, If I was going to sell my car today it would be $150,000 its due to my time involved in it, repairs, restoration etc. The new owner who would buy car will enjoy it without the trouble I faced. Personally speaking I would never sell the car, maybe in 40 years time when I could barely leave the house. I have worked hard for the past 20 years to get here and behind the wheel of this car, I would like to hand it over to my children someday so that they can appreciate the cars rarity of 1,407 examples made for the Turbo 3.6 .

These cars are rare there is a price to finding one immediately if the supply is low I think you can get the price you set for the car, I personally dont care for the miles as I buy on condition. I like to drive my car and I drive it more than many, a friend of mine has a 1993 Slate Grey 110,000 mile Turbo 3.6 which drives perfectly. Its not about the mileage its the condition.

If I were in your shoes Anthony I wouldn't entertain the thought of anything less than $150-$160,000. You cannot import Turbo 3.6 from ROW up to 4 more years later, so if the supply is limited you can get the price you want and I wouldnt hesitate to see prices increasing these levels if the Turbo 3.3 "which are also rare" reach near the 80-90,000 from the low 50's.

To put you into perspective

Ferrari F40 1,315 examples
Mercedes 300 SL Gullwing 1,400 examples.

Just as a production figure examples were at those level of rarity.
Old 06-18-2013, 12:03 PM
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Same car you were asking 60k for last year?
https://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-...600-miles.html

Strong appreciation...
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Personally speaking I don't mind modifications and when I got my car it had all the things I wanted to install if I got a stock car. The thing I hated is the blue or red light aftermarket radios and I installed porsche classic head unit for that retro look.
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50% jump in one year?
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Originally Posted by Metal Guru
Anthony, what is the market outlook for your other two cars? Are you seeing significant appreciation on them also?

As for the stock vs. modified debate, good luck finding a stock 3.3 T, either a 930 or a 965, at this point. Both have been "owner engineered" to improve response and appearance. It seems like potential buyers are not being fussy about bolt-on mods at this point.
Good question. The C2 market is changing and I guess when you think about it the market is up between 35-50% over the last few years. We are talking maybe a $15k increase which doesn't quite hit you the same way as the numbers we are seeing for the turbos. It is hard to put a value on the car even though it has low miles it has been modified for track driving but still street worthy and does a decent job showing GT3 owners that old school air cooled cars are equally capable with the right driver behind the wheel. These cars took a big hit when the economy changed so unlike the turbos they dropped 50% in value vs holding their ground. So right now I am about flat but don't plan on selling it either it is too much fun to drive flat out.

The 928 is a fickle market. One of 170 US 5 speed and 411 US GTS's the really low mileage cars have seen a huge increase in the past 3 years or so. A 13,xxx mile GTS was worth $50k back in 2005 when I purchased mine now they are fetching over $100k for 1995 5 speeds. Mine is a 1993 and although the identical car to the 95 it is the equivalent of the 3.3 to the 3.6 price wise. Even though in perfect concours condition I have put a lot of miles on it so at 65,xxx miles it has been hovering at the same price for years. At least it isn't depreciating and I am still enjoying it.

I also agree that right now bolt on mods and even some more serious mods don't seem to have much impact on the turbos value. Back in 2001 when I was looking there seemed to be more stock cars than anything else and modified cars suffered. Today very few cars are bone stock and I am sure >75% have had suspension and exhaust work and > 50% have had turbos and other mods which is IMO desirable if you plan on driving it. I think records, minimal paint work and clean history is the biggest priority to today's buyer.
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Lucky man, I would love to know how a GTS with a manual gearbox feels. One of my favourite cars ever, my ultimate collection would consist of a 928 GTS, 512TR,F40, Countach 25th Anniversary and a Turbo 3.6
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Originally Posted by MeanMachine
Lucky man, I would love to know how a GTS with a manual gearbox feels. One of my favourite cars ever, my ultimate collection would consist of a 928 GTS, 512TR,F40, Countach 25th Anniversary and a Turbo 3.6
I have driven them all, that is quite the diverse line up and would make one heck of a garage. IMO the GTS 5 speed is one of the best GT cars ever, but I am old school.

I think we are getting off topic


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