964turbo

I am wondering is our car between 91 to 94 still
hand built and hand paint?

ian

Hand Built yes, the cars were still hand built through the 993, that when they had toyota come in and help them redesign the factory to be more automated (remember the comercials for the 993 that showed all the hand labor that went into the car and it made fun of the NSX for being build by robots?)

Hand pained, someone else will have to respond to that one (I'm still trying to figure out if I have a 1 off 965 in the family because of the rare color, moss green metalic)....

SonnyV

Speaking of rare color, my car's color (Zermatt Metallic Silver) is one of only 3 that I know of. Two in the USA (both '92 model year), and one in Europe. It was a special ordered color. I hope it is one of the rare colors on the '91 to '94 series C2 Turbo.

The color is verycool and I've gotten a lot of great comments on it.

Regards,

Sonny
ps: I know that our Turbo has 27 coats of paint on it. But I am not sure that it was hand spray.

Kevin Ross

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by SonnyV:
<strong>Speaking of rare color, my car's color (Zermatt Metallic Silver) is one of only 3 that I know of. Two in the USA (both '92 model year), and one in Europe. It was a special ordered color. I hope it is one of the rare colors on the '91 to '94 series C2 Turbo.

The color is verycool and I've gotten a lot of great comments on it.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Sonny,

I too have a Zermatt silver, I thought there was the two in the US and mine... who has one in Europe? Would love to know how many there are!

BTW, I have a friend in Sydney with the moss green one. It is a 3.6 Turbo - very cool car...

Adrian

The 964s were not hand built they were partially hand assembled. Welding of major components was automated for the 964. Hand assembly took place once the 964 hit the production line.
The 964s were also painted by an automatic process introduced for the 964 production in 1989. There was human involvement for special items and 964s sent over to Porsche Exclusive were hand painted.
A 964 took 80 man hours to build. A 996 takes 5.
Ciao,
Adrian
911C4

SonnyV

Kevin,

Opps, sorry. What I meant was the other Zermatt Silver was your car... I forgot where you were from.

Adrian,

How is it possible to build a 996 for only 5 hours? What you mean is that once it hits the assembly line it takes 5 hours, right?

If so, for the most part the 996 is pre-assembled into sub-assemblies and put together at little time as possible on the production line. Am I right with my thinking here? What about all the time it takes to prepare all of the sub-assemblies? It is hard to believe that it takes only 5 hours to complete a car from scratch.

Sorry for so many questions, but I am very interested to understand the process.

Regards,

Sonny

L8Apex

Sonny,

Are you going to Krispy kreme this month? I've gotta see your car. I have not seen to many c2 turbos at any oc pca event.

maverick

hey sonny i saw a 92 Zermatt Silver for sale for 62,000$ it only had 8,000 miles on it. its still for sale. I think it is in NJ.

Adrian

Dear Sonny,
It is very hard to explain a production line process unless you go and see it. Robot welding is so quick that an entire car can be assembled in minutes. Once the 996 hits the production line it is simply a partially automated process of installing the assemblies. Engine and transmission are already mated (transmission is dleivered fully assembled) Human intervention and total work time is 5 hours. Obviously this does not mean that the 996 races out in the door in five hours it means only 5 human man hours are now required to build a 996 whereas 80 were required for our 964s.
Ciao,
Adrian
911C4

SonnyV

L8apex,

I will be at the Krispy Kreme tomorrow, if it does not rain.

Maverick,

The car that you saw forsale is the only second one in the same color as my car in the USA.

Adrian,

Thanks for explaining the process. I read the process of how the Boxster was built before. I guess the process of "just in time" is hard to gasp. I would love to someday travel to Germany and tour the factory.

Regards,

Sonny

L8Apex

Sonny,

Good seeing you! Your car looks even more amazing in person.

Cheers!

Adrian

Dear Sonny,
I am sure you will make it one day.
Ciao,
Adrian
911C4

Luke

Zermatt is a VERY popular 944 color.

Johnny G Pipe

Came to the blown forum by accident - but this caught my eye...
It's rewarding to hear the differences in human input - maybe that comes through in the driving experience..So, am I being honest when I boast to my friends that the 964's motor is handbuilt?