Sifly

Hi Guy's

I am considering fitting the subtle 3.8 RS front splitter (as also seen on some turbo S cars) to my 91 turbo.

I belive there are a few options, OEM, Techart, RUF etc?? Can anyone post any pics of the various types?

Can anyone give me any information on prices, product quality etc?
I am UK based by the way so probably easier to purchase within europe?!

Thanks Simon

Metal Guru

www.carnewal-europe.com/



P64 Chin Spoiler

Chin spoiler from the 3.8L wide body Rennsport version.
Fits the P64 Turbo/ Turbo look front bumper.
Price : 290 Euro.
Made from polyurethane.

Contact us for more information

Sifly

Thanks Paul, that looks perfect.

I'm guessing that this item is made from polyurethane similar to the standard bumper trim. So it should flex as apposed to crack if grounded slightly once in a while?? And I will have to have it painted to match the semi-gloss black as the original item (to match the sills).

I wonder if a genuine Porsche part would be much more? I will give my OPC a call in the morning to find out. At least I could save on shipping!

Simon

ghhally

Simon,

the part from Carnewal is a genuine Porsche Motorsport Part.
It's the best you can have! I'll be ordering soon.

Rgds,

Geert

Sal 965

I'm not sure that is correct.

I was told by Porsche GB that the original parts were no longer available anywhere but there may be a few parts in "Germany" if you knew who to ask. This topic has been covered before (even by me as a change to my techart parts) and the "winglets" are riveted on to the standard parts from memory. I know Cobalt has these fitted and posted some pictures of the fixings.

Sifly

Hi Sal,

Yes i've just been searching through old threads on the subject (and theres a fair few)!!!

At least the Carnewal product looks like it all comes in two complete pieces ready to simply replace the standard trims? So should be a fairly easy job of just unscrewing and replacing as I had my standard items off recently for a bit of 'smile fixing'!!!

Simon

ghhally

Confirmation was sent recently by Cranewal.
Porsche OEM part.

cobalt

BS to that, unless Porsche has released a revised version.

I have the factory part on my car and it was the standard lower valence pieces that had 2 winglets attached.

Mine was actually from an RS I also have several friends that have factory Turbo S's and have seen most of them at one time or another and I can assure you the one in the picture is not what was supplied back in 1994.

As I said this doesn't mean there isn't a newer version but that is not the same as the OE unit.
I am attaching pictures of mine which are OE. You can ask Mark S/Mr. Flachbau about this also.

Sifly

Can I ask what kind of confirmation were you sent?

Simon

ghhally

Reply form Geert the owner from Carnewal, stating price and origin.
It would be the first time Geert is talking BS.
Anyhow we will know soon.

Gert

Hi guys,

This 964T chin spoiler that we sell is sourced from Porsche.
It's the same part that we sell since many years.
Call it BS herr Cobalt but that's the way it is.

cobalt

Gert I don't mean to offend or accuse you of being dishonest. If it comes from you I believe you feel the info you are providing is accurate. However, there is a definite conflict here with what I know to be fact. I did say Porsche might have re-released this and is manufactured differently than the original part.

Can you post pictures of the part you sell for comparison?

I have several friends who own factory 1994 turbo S's. Mark Smith from www.flachbau.com has posted numerous pictures of similar units to mine and has sourced units directly from Porsche.

When mine arrived in a factory sealed bag both the part and the bag had a factory sticker and part number on it. I mistakenly never retained the info. I do know mine was for an RS 3.8 and not for a turbo S but they are identical to mine minus the added venting slots.

Unfortunately I don't have any good pictures of their units but I will post what i have and i have looked closely at these. The pearl white in the bag was one of 4 or so turbo S's this individual owned at the time and i had a good look at them outside the bubbles, the black flachbau is a friend of mines car and the black package car was recently sold by NYC123 I am sure he could verify that it is the real deal.

Like I said I know about 4 years back these became NLA and many of the parts like the tail of the Turbo S could not be purchased from Porsche unless you could prove ownership of an actual turbo S. I was lucky to stumble upon a factory turbo S tail. It has no part number on it but again this was carefully inspected against a turbo S and it matches in every detail including the factory OEM stamp.

So unless, like I said that Porsche has released a newer version of this part the units were not 2 single pieces but a modified factory valance and the winglets which were attached separately.

So I request you interpenetration of why we are seeing a difference in part.

cobalt

I figured I would post a picture of my car for comparison and I am attaching pictures of the turbo S tail in factory gelcoat for review. As you can see I have done some homework on these pieces.

IIRC Mark said getting a replacement tail from the factory took an eternity and they put him through hell.

The bottom picture is Mark's tail which has been painted therefore the difference in stamp appearance but the tail I have does match the car in the first picture of the previous posts identically same as the front splitters.

Edit:
I borrowed the picture from your site. I will remove it if you request me to. Is this 2 single pieces as your description implies or are the winglets attached with rivets as the factory units are and are they plastic or fiberglass?

rufm5

cobalt yours looks aftermarket where it is bolted on and the carnewal looks like one piece?

parsecnc4

Contrary to your statement, the factory splitters are bolted on. I am with Colbalt on this... I ordered them from PMS a while back and I would imagine they are not aftermarket. I am not an expert on this, but I would be surprised to have received non-factory parts from PMS with Porsche part numbers and stickers.

Here is a not-so-great picture of them installed on my car.