I'm contemplating in giving up my '06 997 C2 for a '94 964T 3.6.
I rarely drive the car as it is that's why I want something that's rare and unique.
I'm sure that the 964T 3.6 will be worth more down the road compared to my 997 C2.

I just want to know if the current prices for a good example, w/ 20K-30K miles around $65-75 already bottomed out. I know they rarely come up for sale but I have seen a couple.

I'm considering the blk 964T 3.6 in Maryland. It was discussed here on the board but kinda skeptical about the PPI. I spoke to the dealer and seems like they're not too keen in having it done at a P-car dealership (he said a few . They recommend a local P-car shop (TCPracing.com). (this is just my impression) Any of you guys from the area seen the car in person? I'm from California and this will be a sight unseen purchase if it happens.


How are these cars in terms of reliability? I wont be tracking the car, it will mostly be a weekend driver.

Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

 

PM sent
perhaps a trade ?

Elliot

 

I would say that a 20k mile 3.6 turbo would be a pretty good deal at $75k. I paid $70k for mine with 16k miles about three years ago.

With respect to the PPI, I would post on the 964 Turbo and 964 board in seperate threads about a recommendation for a PPI in the area that your possible purchase is located. I agree that Porsche dealers would probably not be as knowledgable as a good and reputable independent shop, however the seller should accept your choice of PPI provider. I would have them do a compression test and leak down as well as go around the car with a paint gauge. For additional insurance you can always look for a local rennlister to have a look for you.

in my mind you will see little depreciation (if any) from your 964 turbo, however maintenance will be higher than your 997. You'll also be surprised how small the interior of the car is in comparison to the 997.

Reliability on these cars is pretty much a function of how they are being maintained. I highly recommend having even the small stuff fixed before is causes more expensive problems. Other than that, I think these cars are pretty much bullet proof.

Let us know how it works out.

 

Thanks for the advice, much appreciated...I will keep you posted

 

I will agree the market hit bottom about 2003/2004 and has slowly been on the rise since. Back in 2004 I could have found you 7-10 nice clean low mileage 94 turbos at any given time. Today I have seen only a few worth their asking price. Many have issues and make sure you have them thoroughly inspected.

Definitely old school feel and looks but a blast of a car.

Whatever you do don't read Excellence magazine on their market value for these cars. They will have you believe they are declining in value and you can pick up an excellent example for $50k. This is one market they are thoroughly clueless about.

 

I would agree with Antony. 3.6T prices seem to have gone up steadily for the last 4 years. Back in 2003, you could buy a nice 3.6T in the low 50s easily. One key thing though is originality. Things like missing the Speedlines & engine changes hurt the value of these cars far more so than the 3.3Ts or 993tts. It's more comparable to the 993TT S.

 

There have been many good points brought up here. As the old saying goes, you get what you pay for. If you look at the cars that RPM has brought to the market in recent times, they are true examples of time capsule cars that are the best of the best. You will also notice that Ray is getting very close to 6 figure asking prices for these cars. He also sells them at a fast rate. Remeber these cars are now 15 years old and in many cases have had several owners and many fingers have touched the drivetrains on these cars. In most cases by poor technicians or fixed on limited budgets. So a 964T is absolutly going to cost more to maintain than a 997.

Find the very best car you can with what your budget will allow. Dont count on these cars coming down in price any time soon.

 

If you rarely drive your car...sometimes its better to go w/something a bit more modern. But I must say the 965 3.6 is a very nice bit of kit. If your goal is to get one keep it and see it appreciate, then pay the extra $ and get a 10 instead of an 8.5 that needs this and that. And like someone else said, it will cost more to maintain. Even if you don't drive it a lot, I've always had the valves adjusted 1x year no matter how many miles I put on the car....sort of like Ferrari, you change the belts every 3-years whether you've done the miles or not.

Finally, I must say, when you crack open the garage door...you want to look at something beautiful...for me the 965 (and more so the 930...but that's a different animal all together) certainly fulfills that requirement.

Good luck on your decision and search.

 

997for40 I owned a '94 3.6T 10 years ago and really probably regret selling/trading
that car more than any I've owned and/or driven..
A really sparkling car performance wise,phenomenal..really!
Will it cost more than your 997 to maintain,almost certainly,it has quite a bit more
performance edge (and earlier technology),as well as mileage likely.
Will it appreciate and outstrip the 997 line value wise,if the 996's are any indication
that may occur faster than we think!
Certainly the build numbers for the later series cars far exceeds those of some if not
all of the earlier top end performance turbo line.
I've even purchased a '91 roller 965 to lighten and put a late turbo in hoping to
approximate if not exceed the raw rush that car conveys....i would have to say go for
it if you can swing it, i'm in DC where is it ? Bert :-)

 

My 0.02 as far as comparable pricing is concerned. 06 997 with under 15k are going for very low $60k already. I'm thinking even my 3.6 with 60k will be able to fetch about $60k.

I've driven 997s and was surprised how fast they were with a very nice steering feel. But I also thought it rode very stiff considering it was stock height. I like it but wouldn't even consider trading my 3.6 for one. I've done 10k on mine with no issues but the PO took very good care of it. Just a few oil changes and a brake flush. IMO, the 3.6 have hit the bottom and will stay stable for a long time. As everyone has stated, PPI is a must, GL.

 

Bought mine about 5 years ago and still enjoy driving it, looking at it and simply owning it. These vehicles are a true pleasure to own all around. I almost sold mine about a year ago - glad I didn't go through with it. I would have regretted it for years to come and I've never seen another (red/tan) one pop up for sale after I thought about selling it. Life is good, it's even better owning a 3.6.

The funny thing is... the 3.6 still hasn't become a collector car yet. Once the prices excel past the original sticker then we'll have a collector car on our hands. I feel strongly that we'll see this happen sooner than later. Go get one and you won't regret it.

Cheers & best of luck,

Lance

 

Old technology and going down in price. Why would anyone pay that money now when one can get a 996 Turbo for about or less than that? Mind boggling to me. Same is true for the 993 Turbo way overpriced. These things are old guys get over it, 996 or 997 way to go. I am sorry guys but that’s the truth. Look at the Nissan GT-R for about 78K you get spanked all day and hard.

 

The same could be said about a Mercedes 300 Gullwing. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I hope you're right about the 993tt but only because I want one, but I don't think it's going down and I doubt the 3.6 will either.

 

There is no doubt a 996tt is a better car in ever way technology wise. But older cars have their charm too. For a DD, I would get the 996tt. But for a fun weekender, a 964t would be great.

 

I sold my 07 997S that I paid 103K for a 94 3.6. I don't know if you have owned a 94 3.6 or a 993TT or even a 997 or even a Porsche for that matter, but I had a hard time letting go of my 94 3.6T, the 997 I didn't bat an eye and was willing to take huge loss. They will always make more water cooled Porsches, but aircooleds ain't coming back. There is no comparison to the feel that you get with the air cooled turbos.