Fun with an F430....
03-24-2007, 08:56 PM
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I'm not sure we're logical with the gender/sexual orientation association with boxsters, but it carries on into the market for these cars.
I tried to buy an ex Japan '93 964 TIPTRONIC with 20k miles and left the bid at USD 28k [all up price in NZ]. The broker said he could get me a '02 boxster with 5k miles [no typo] at USD 27k firm.
He couldn't understand the market dynamics and I can see why. The newer car will run rings around the older one.....but I'm not game to explain why I bought a "Porsche with panties" so I'll hang out for the 964.
I tried to buy an ex Japan '93 964 TIPTRONIC with 20k miles and left the bid at USD 28k [all up price in NZ]. The broker said he could get me a '02 boxster with 5k miles [no typo] at USD 27k firm.
He couldn't understand the market dynamics and I can see why. The newer car will run rings around the older one.....but I'm not game to explain why I bought a "Porsche with panties" so I'll hang out for the 964.
03-24-2007, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ddavis
Guys,
I love Porsches and I'm a huge collector of them too. I currently own a '94 Turbo S Flatnose (the fastest and best stock 964 ever made) and I own a 430 Ferrari.
I am telling you for a fact - same driver driving both cars. The 430 is MUCH faster. Now, I am not taking anything away from my Flatnose. I would never trade my Flatnose for a 430, but comparing the two speed wise is just stupid.
I love Porsches and I'm a huge collector of them too. I currently own a '94 Turbo S Flatnose (the fastest and best stock 964 ever made) and I own a 430 Ferrari.
I am telling you for a fact - same driver driving both cars. The 430 is MUCH faster. Now, I am not taking anything away from my Flatnose. I would never trade my Flatnose for a 430, but comparing the two speed wise is just stupid.
03-25-2007, 01:19 AM
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Originally Posted by sfbanchs
don you own a 430 when i grow up i want to be just like you, how many cars total do you have?
Now you know why I have a Wholesale Dealers license. Sales and Personal Property Tax would kill me.
'66 GTO Convertible
'67 Tripower Corvette Coupe
'68 GTO Convertible
'86 930 Turbo Coupe
'87 930 Turbo Slantnose
'89 930 Turbo Cabo
'93 RS America
'94 Turbo S Flatnose
'96 Turbo Coupe
'97 Turbo S Arena Red
'97 Turbo S Guard Red
'04 Ferrrari 575 Red
'04 Ferrari 575 Titanium (long story)
'06 Ferrari 430 Spider
'06 Mercedes 500 SL
'07 Bentley Arnage T
Twin Daughters
(2) '05 Escalades
Wife
'07 Escalade
03-25-2007, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by ddavis
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'66 GTO Convertible
'67 Tripower Corvette Coupe
'68 GTO Convertible
'86 930 Turbo Coupe
'87 930 Turbo Slantnose
'89 930 Turbo Cabo
'93 RS America
'94 Turbo S Flatnose
'96 Turbo Coupe
'97 Turbo S Arena Red
'97 Turbo S Guard Red
'04 Ferrrari 575 Red
'04 Ferrari 575 Titanium (long story)
'06 Ferrari 430 Spider
'06 Mercedes 500 SL
'07 Bentley Arnage T
Twin Daughters
(2) '05 Escalades
Wife
'07 Escalade
'66 GTO Convertible
'67 Tripower Corvette Coupe
'68 GTO Convertible
'86 930 Turbo Coupe
'87 930 Turbo Slantnose
'89 930 Turbo Cabo
'93 RS America
'94 Turbo S Flatnose
'96 Turbo Coupe
'97 Turbo S Arena Red
'97 Turbo S Guard Red
'04 Ferrrari 575 Red
'04 Ferrari 575 Titanium (long story)
'06 Ferrari 430 Spider
'06 Mercedes 500 SL
'07 Bentley Arnage T
Twin Daughters
(2) '05 Escalades
Wife
'07 Escalade
. If you ever get tired of any of them, & want to give them away, I'd be happy to help you out 
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03-25-2007, 10:14 AM
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Wow is that a list...
I would like to disagree about the newer cars running circles around the older ones. I was at VIR last weekend and new M3's, Caymans, Boxster's, and 996 - carrera's, 4s, and twin turbo's had to let me by. Could have been the driver, instructor, or maybe my car's modifications, but that's the choice they made when they went to the dealership.
On this forum, the 964 turbo is king
I would like to disagree about the newer cars running circles around the older ones. I was at VIR last weekend and new M3's, Caymans, Boxster's, and 996 - carrera's, 4s, and twin turbo's had to let me by. Could have been the driver, instructor, or maybe my car's modifications, but that's the choice they made when they went to the dealership
. On this forum, the 964 turbo is king
03-25-2007, 01:36 PM
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By the way, I'm really surprised to hear DDavis say the 430 is MUCH faster than his turboS.
As I said before due to the turbo's power delivery, once on a roll, I can see us keeping up with most. And I've read on Rennlist previously, from track days and drag tests, that the 965 was as fast as later generation 911 turbos (even though text book times say different), it was just that more modern cars are quicker off the mark and not such a handfull to drive.
Incidentally, my car isn't quite standard. Although nowhere near as exotic as some on here, it is more responsive than standard and keeps up with my mates with 1 bar, etc. And the fact remains that the 430 guy did not leave me for dust...
As I said before due to the turbo's power delivery, once on a roll, I can see us keeping up with most. And I've read on Rennlist previously, from track days and drag tests, that the 965 was as fast as later generation 911 turbos (even though text book times say different), it was just that more modern cars are quicker off the mark and not such a handfull to drive.
Incidentally, my car isn't quite standard. Although nowhere near as exotic as some on here, it is more responsive than standard and keeps up with my mates with 1 bar, etc. And the fact remains that the 430 guy did not leave me for dust...
03-25-2007, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 911addict
By the way, I'm really surprised to hear DDavis say the 430 is MUCH faster than his turboS.
As I said before due to the turbo's power delivery, once on a roll, I can see us keeping up with most. And I've read on Rennlist previously, from track days and drag tests, that the 965 was as fast as later generation 911 turbos (even though text book times say different), it was just that more modern cars are quicker off the mark and not such a handfull to drive.
Incidentally, my car isn't quite standard. Although nowhere near as exotic as some on here, it is more responsive than standard and keeps up with my mates with 1 bar, etc. And the fact remains that the 430 guy did not leave me for dust...
As I said before due to the turbo's power delivery, once on a roll, I can see us keeping up with most. And I've read on Rennlist previously, from track days and drag tests, that the 965 was as fast as later generation 911 turbos (even though text book times say different), it was just that more modern cars are quicker off the mark and not such a handfull to drive.
Incidentally, my car isn't quite standard. Although nowhere near as exotic as some on here, it is more responsive than standard and keeps up with my mates with 1 bar, etc. And the fact remains that the 430 guy did not leave me for dust...
I'm saying its faster. But, I also said I would NEVER trade my '94 Turbo S for a 430. So that should be obvious to ALL - which car is my favorite.
03-25-2007, 07:20 PM
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Is the 3.6 more responsive (low rpm) than the 3.3 in a real world setting, i.e. city traffic? If you have a moded 3.3 (1 bar, header, etc.) would you feel a difference between the two?
03-25-2007, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ddavis
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Now you know why I have a Wholesale Dealers license. Sales and Personal Property Tax would kill me.
'66 GTO Convertible
'67 Tripower Corvette Coupe
'68 GTO Convertible
'86 930 Turbo Coupe
'87 930 Turbo Slantnose
'89 930 Turbo Cabo
'93 RS America
'94 Turbo S Flatnose
'96 Turbo Coupe
'97 Turbo S Arena Red
'97 Turbo S Guard Red
'04 Ferrrari 575 Red
'04 Ferrari 575 Titanium (long story)
'06 Ferrari 430 Spider
'06 Mercedes 500 SL
'07 Bentley Arnage T
Twin Daughters
(2) '05 Escalades
Wife
'07 Escalade
Now you know why I have a Wholesale Dealers license. Sales and Personal Property Tax would kill me.
'66 GTO Convertible
'67 Tripower Corvette Coupe
'68 GTO Convertible
'86 930 Turbo Coupe
'87 930 Turbo Slantnose
'89 930 Turbo Cabo
'93 RS America
'94 Turbo S Flatnose
'96 Turbo Coupe
'97 Turbo S Arena Red
'97 Turbo S Guard Red
'04 Ferrrari 575 Red
'04 Ferrari 575 Titanium (long story)
'06 Ferrari 430 Spider
'06 Mercedes 500 SL
'07 Bentley Arnage T
Twin Daughters
(2) '05 Escalades
Wife
'07 Escalade
You utter bastard
03-25-2007, 11:25 PM
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Nice collection, Don!
Does anyone on Rennlist have a 3.6t with EFI?
Does anyone on Rennlist have a 3.6t with EFI?