Trader220

The integrity at VMC is so suspect that I would not count on them for accurate pricing info. Who knows what they got for that car? There is a Coral Red one on eBay right now and its at Cherry Hill Imports in NJ.. I used to know the owner and I would be happy to give it a look for anyone. Its not an S2 obviously


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/91-Po...em300114099681

graeme36s

Forget the 993TT your 3.6 is a proper 911 turbo

al 965

There are a lot of things that I would worry about on this car! It was built as a 91 ( late) as production went from aug. 90 thru july 91. Car shows a cir. of aut. man. date of 7-30-91 but titled as a 92 which is not uncommon. It is a (N) code car whitch makes it a 92. On the car tags in provided pics. the engine code is a M30/69 which is carried over from 91. If it was a true Turbo S engine It would have a M30/69SL engine code . It has the G50/52 trans. which is correct for Turbo and Turbo S models. It's # 224 of 309 cars made for North America which I don't understand because it was made in 7-30-91. Production of (N) code 92 cars went from aug. 91 thru july of 92 why would a car with a 7-30-91 birth date have a 224 s# in the 92 year model year and not A # 1, 2,3 or so?

cobalt

Where are you getting the M30/69SL info from? The US 92 S2's were stock 92 turbos imported to the US and sent to Andial for the conversion. Sounds like you might be confusing this with the ROW S which was not offered here. The S2's I am aware of don't show anything different other than some additional tags on the door jam showing Andial serial number. I don't know about the 92's but it might be similar to the 94's that were M718 coded to revise vin number to 94 even though the first 288 were built in the beginning of 1993 and the balance in the later part of 93. Depending on when the car was ordered it might have taken that much time to import and convert the car to S2 spec.

al 965

Anthony, the Type M30/69SL option was a option for 92 special run Turbo S models .Same as M30/69 except 381 hp @6,000 rpm and 362 ft.lb torque @4,800 rpm . (PORSCHE 911 RED BOOK) . This option would show up on hood tag instead of M30/69.They also had same trans. G50/52 as regular C2 Turbo. N code cars ,92 production year went from aug. 91 thru july 92 with a production # of 836 ROW cars and 309 North American cars starting @ NS480001 - 0309.

nathanUK '81 930 G50

The S2 is not an S option.

Megatron-UK

Al, I don't think the US got the 3.3 S (the S2 was something that was produced from a standard model 3.3 Turbo) in the same way that they didn't get the proper RS (and got the C2 derived RS America in that situation) - too stripped with the lightweight panels, windows, bumpers and whatnot it wouldn't meet the tougher US laws.

Though I always find it funny that you can chop the hell out of a 60-70 year old Ford or Chevrolet, run it with a monster V8 and single-digit mpg carbs, have spikes and all sorts coming off it!!! ... yet the US government wouldn't let you have a lightweight production vehicle such as the 964 RS, or grp bodied cars like a TVR or the series 1 Lotus Elise!

nathanUK '81 930 G50

Yes, they were not allowed the S.

cobalt

Yes this is what I was trying to point out. The US S2 is not the same as the ROW S.

There are some stupid rules we have to live with. The old cars pre date DOT requirements and are grandfathered so you can do whatever you want.

The one I find disturbing is the 2007 AC 427 cobra replicas that end up being registered as 1960's autos. It is illegal but someone found a loophole and get away with it.

Megatron-UK

So I guess they then don't have to pass your modern smog/emissions controls in that situation? That's sneaky!

cobalt

No smog, seat belt, crash tests etc. very sneaky. I am sure eventually they will catch on and it will be very hard to sell these things but for now you can buy these things relatively cheap considering what a real 427 cobra goes for. IIRC Shelby's personal car sold for $5million recently but that was pumping out over 800 hp in 1963.