Notices
964 Turbo Forum 1989-1994

Where can i fit a wideband and egt gauge

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-10-2022, 08:34 AM
  #1  
911 2
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
 
911 2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 910
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Default Where can i fit a wideband and egt gauge

Would like to fit a wide band and exhaust temperature gauge, where is everyone putting their gauges, pics would be great
Old 07-10-2022, 09:29 AM
  #2  
Metal Guru
Rennlist Member
 
Metal Guru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Beverly Hills, Mi.
Posts: 4,521
Received 429 Likes on 309 Posts
Default

I put my Innovate PSB-1 https://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/psb1.php in the spot where the change slot is.
I bought a C4 bezel (it already has a hole for the 2WD-4WD rotary switch) and enlarged it to accept the gauge.
I'm not sure that EGT is a useful thing to have unless you have a lookup table.
The nice thing about this gauge is it will log AFR, boost and rpm, which comes in handy for tuning.
Since I don't have a electronic boost control, I'm not able to use the safety features the gauge provides.
Another advantage to this gauge is that it will hold the maximum boost value, so you don't have to stare at it when you're doing a run and end up driving into the back of a garbage truck.


Old 07-10-2022, 10:20 AM
  #3  
911 2
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
 
911 2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 910
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Thanks, i was wondering if there were any aftermarket pillar or steering column pods, the area you have fitted your gauge is also ideal
i was going to use a aem wideband gauge
Old 07-10-2022, 10:28 AM
  #4  
Black_Hat
Racer
 
Black_Hat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Austin
Posts: 398
Received 69 Likes on 61 Posts
Default

I've been running Zeironix in all my cars for years
In my C2T I wedge the display in between the dash and center console
It does not have all kinds of different color lights and looks sort ofperoid correct next to the McIntosh CD
It does do data logging
and can be removed in minutes
picture makes car look so dirty ....Time forpost Covid detail ....
Stefan

Old 07-10-2022, 10:38 AM
  #5  
911 2
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
 
911 2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 910
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

what is the model number of the Zeironix seesm to do a multiple of measurements,
Old 07-10-2022, 11:32 AM
  #6  
Scott Dunavant
Rennlist Member
 
Scott Dunavant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2020
Posts: 744
Received 164 Likes on 124 Posts
Default A-pillar

A-pillar is skinny compared to modern day cars with curtain airbags
Old 07-10-2022, 12:53 PM
  #7  
Black_Hat
Racer
 
Black_Hat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Austin
Posts: 398
Received 69 Likes on 61 Posts
Default

http://www.zeitronix.com/order/order...N_ZT2_BDISPLAY

"Zt-2 + LCD Display Bundle
In this kit the Zt-2 Model 2010 Wideband is bundled with either our classic silver (clear anodized aluminum) LCD display, or the new black anodized LCD display. The black anodizing is a deep shade of black -- no cheap or grayish imitation anodizing here. High contrast LCD is visible even in a direct sunlight and has a peak and hold feature.
Includes the Zt-2 Model 2010 Wideband Air/Fuel Ratio Meter, LSU 4.9 O2 Sensor, 10ft* Sensor Harness, Signal Harness, PC Serial Cable, Datalogging Software, Installation Instructions and 2-Pin EGT Connector to retrofit your EGT probe. Data splitter included for simultaneous display and datalogging use.
Made in the USA"

This is really easy to add or remove without permanent modification .
there are other more integrated solutions and more modern

​​​​​​​I find the data log graphs invaluable when tuning



the above "ugly AFR" Graph is showing pig rich in between shifts. I tuned that all out with a boost signal limiter controlled by my ignition computer
The following users liked this post:
Megatron-UK (07-10-2022)
Old 07-10-2022, 01:04 PM
  #8  
997 tt/rs
Pro
 
997 tt/rs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 601
Received 63 Likes on 38 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 911 2
Would like to fit a wide band and exhaust temperature gauge, where is everyone putting their gauges, pics would be great
I think it's best to remove the clock and put what you need in its place.
Old 07-10-2022, 01:05 PM
  #9  
997 tt/rs
Pro
 
997 tt/rs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 601
Received 63 Likes on 38 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 911 2
Would like to fit a wide band and exhaust temperature gauge, where is everyone putting their gauges, pics would be great
btw. which gauge you found?
Old 07-10-2022, 02:44 PM
  #10  
911 2
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
 
911 2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 910
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

i was going to use standard 52mm gauge but think i will struggle in the 964 cabin,
Zeironix seems a good compromise
Old 07-10-2022, 09:32 PM
  #11  
Metal Guru
Rennlist Member
 
Metal Guru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Beverly Hills, Mi.
Posts: 4,521
Received 429 Likes on 309 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 997 tt/rs
I think it's best to remove the clock and put what you need in its place.
The airbag and charging system warnings are in the clock. Removing the clock will set the general fault (!) light and set an airbag fault code.
Old 07-11-2022, 06:51 AM
  #12  
997 tt/rs
Pro
 
997 tt/rs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 601
Received 63 Likes on 38 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Metal Guru
The airbag and charging system warnings are in the clock. Removing the clock will set the general fault (!) light and set an airbag fault code.
you're right i missed it. I believe that AFR or EGT must be in the direct line of sight without taking of eyes of the road.
Otherwise, having such a clock does not make sense because before you look, you will have burned pistons
Old 07-11-2022, 07:04 AM
  #13  
997 tt/rs
Pro
 
997 tt/rs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 601
Received 63 Likes on 38 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 911 2
i was going to use standard 52mm gauge but think i will struggle in the 964 cabin,
Zeironix seems a good compromise
i though about this one

https://www.innovatemotorsports.com/products/scg1.php
Old 07-11-2022, 10:23 AM
  #14  
Black_Hat
Racer
 
Black_Hat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Austin
Posts: 398
Received 69 Likes on 61 Posts
Default

You cannot look at the Gauge while on boost, Things are happening way too fast and very unsafe That is what data logging is for

regular driving & monitoring you can take peek for tuning / verifying

some AFR have Lean Alarm function

Last edited by Black_Hat; 07-11-2022 at 12:59 PM.
Old 07-11-2022, 04:12 PM
  #15  
Metal Guru
Rennlist Member
 
Metal Guru's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Beverly Hills, Mi.
Posts: 4,521
Received 429 Likes on 309 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Black_Hat
You cannot look at the Gauge while on boost, Things are happening way too fast and very unsafe That is what data logging is for

regular driving & monitoring you can take peek for tuning / verifying

some AFR have Lean Alarm function
+1
Besides, the values are changing so fast under boost that trying to record the value visually in your brain and then looking at the recorded data is all very different.
The Innovate gauge I use will hold the maximum boost value but that is highly inaccurate too. Any pressure spike occurring when the throttle shuts will skew the data. It's best to record the data and review it at your leisure.


Quick Reply: Where can i fit a wideband and egt gauge



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 10:30 AM.