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Just look at the rust on the original rear shocks. After thirty years all the suspension is shot.
Sorry but this one needs a full restoration.
Sorry but this one needs a full restoration.
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^^ Something going on with this car. The speedlines have been reworked improperly and one of the wheels they used RH bolts. The Vin sticker is missing on the passenger door jamb so there is paintwork that needs explaining possible panel replacement? There are a bunch of plugs that don't belong, I am assuming a PDR drilled to fix dents. Also the wheel wells should be painted black, however we are learning that some late MY 93/94's did not have the door surrounds by the cards painted black like this one so maybe they did not paint the wheel wells black as well but this is a first for me. I see what could be damage in the wheel wells and for some reason someone painted the undercoating black on the under side.
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Doesn't look like a bad car but trying to make heads or tails out of the records is tough. They aren't in chronological order but seems the car has had lots of work for the miles and things like A/C and battery draw are noted frequently. It isn't well presented and there are no paint meter readings. I don't understand why paint readings aren't mandated since they are always asked for and need to be added later if at all.
GL it hasn't moved much so far.
GL it hasn't moved much so far.
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Of the numerous 3.6T's I have looked at the wheel wells were painted black on lighter colors like white, red, even my cobalt. They did not do this on the earlier turbos or NB cars AFAIK. However we are learning they did some strange things in late 93-94. Just as the lower rockers are painted black on light colors and body color on darker colors.
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You can see a little cobalt showing through. Removing the wheel liner will show it was done prior to cosmoline which made its way to covering some of the black. This was after I removed the original cosmoline. Not a fan of the stuff. This appears to be another based on color so the cars I know that have the lower rockers painted black had the wheel wells done as well. I have a friend with a metallic black 3.6T purchased new and his are not painted black but neither are his rockers neither were the midnight blue car that I know was all original paint as well. I don't believe they did this on the 3.3's but if anyone has any info on that please post.
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Thanks Anthony for the explanation! I have a probably unique thought about this. In my youth I went through a few different brands of cars starting with American, then MG, Fiat and then a BMW. When I got my 320I I was amazed by the build quality compared to what I had previously and especially the fuse box under the hood. I would just stare at it and try to imagine the hours some engineers put into making it perfect. When I then got my first Pcar a few years later I had the same feeling about the complete high quality paint job on every part of the uni-body, thicker than most in the unseen areas. And the wheel wells showed this off the best for me. I bought a power washer just to keep this area clean so the color would show from certain angles. Little did I know it wasn't as important to Porsche.
Thanks again.
Thanks again.
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Thanks Anthony for the explanation! I have a probably unique thought about this. In my youth I went through a few different brands of cars starting with American, then MG, Fiat and then a BMW. When I got my 320I I was amazed by the build quality compared to what I had previously and especially the fuse box under the hood. I would just stare at it and try to imagine the hours some engineers put into making it perfect. When I then got my first Pcar a few years later I had the same feeling about the complete high quality paint job on every part of the uni-body, thicker than most in the unseen areas. And the wheel wells showed this off the best for me. I bought a power washer just to keep this area clean so the color would show from certain angles. Little did I know it wasn't as important to Porsche.
Thanks again.
Thanks again.
I am not sure why Porsche did some of the things they did and why we have periods of things like this being done or in the case of the doors the surrounds around the door cards not being painted black on some 93-94 cars but did for all prior and later 911's. It may just remain an enigma.
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Another 320I owner!! Mine was silver/blue. My first new car. I lowered it, put wider wheels and Foha spoilers, etc. At the time we thought it was a fast car. IIRC 0-60 in 11 sec. But I always loved 911's. I gave up on BMW after my 01 740iL. Great car with too many issues. After restoring a 71E I haven't looked back. I don't drive mine as often as i like but I never tire of the sounds and feel of an A/C 911.
I am not sure why Porsche did some of the things they did and why we have periods of things like this being done or in the case of the doors the surrounds around the door cards not being painted black on some 93-94 cars but did for all prior and later 911's. It may just remain an enigma.
I am not sure why Porsche did some of the things they did and why we have periods of things like this being done or in the case of the doors the surrounds around the door cards not being painted black on some 93-94 cars but did for all prior and later 911's. It may just remain an enigma.
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Very neat! I thought mine was a sports car....not. But I always wanted a 911 from reading R&T in high school but could not afford one. At one point while owning the 320 I went to look at a 71 t and was ready to to pull the trigger when I asked one too many questions.... What's with this oil leak? Seller, oh that's from on top of the motor so you will have to drop it to fix it. What? I didn't know that that was just a few bolts and it comes out and this would be my DD so I passed. Bought a new 325e(junk) and then a Euro 323i Alpina(great car!) but still had the 911 itch so not long after got my first Pcar. Very similar story to yours. Cool!
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PTS Lavender Blue Japanese market 3.6 going up for auction in June. Here’s when it was on Pcarmarket a few years ago.
https://www.broadarrowauctions.com/v...-911-turbo-3-6
https://www.broadarrowauctions.com/v...-911-turbo-3-6
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PTS Lavender Blue Japanese market 3.6 going up for auction in June. Here’s when it was on Pcarmarket a few years ago.
https://www.broadarrowauctions.com/v...-911-turbo-3-6
https://www.broadarrowauctions.com/v...-911-turbo-3-6
I heard of someone looking to sell a 3.3 91 Amethyst over black with magenta piping but wants $250k.
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I know GRP is selling a Amethyst/black Japanese market ‘92 3.3 asking $280k. Was on Pcarmarket a year and a half ago.
https://www.grahamrahalperformance.c...67389?ref=list