3.6 at a reasonable price point
05-16-2018, 11:49 PM
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3.6 at a reasonable price point
I saw this on the www.......not sure if it's been discussed recently but thought I'd post as at 52k miles seems quite low. It's was for sale at legends in New York .
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911/142793401437?hash=item213f26645d:g:kg4AAOSwkxRasqio&siteId=0&AdChoicePre ference=true&rmvSB=true&ul_ref=https%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Fro ver%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Ficep_id%253D114%2526ipn%253Dicep%2526toolid%253D20004%2526ca mpid%253D5337976231%2526mpre%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com% 25252Fitm%25252FPorsche-911%25252F142793401437%25253Fhash%25253Ditem213f26645d%25253Ag%25253Akg4 AAOSwkxRasqio%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D1531021756511%2526rvr_ts%253D60d123a81630a9cb901454c7ff eed033
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911/142793401437?hash=item213f26645d:g:kg4AAOSwkxRasqio&siteId=0&AdChoicePre ference=true&rmvSB=true&ul_ref=https%253A%252F%252Frover.ebay.com%252Fro ver%252F1%252F711-53200-19255-0%252F1%253Ficep_id%253D114%2526ipn%253Dicep%2526toolid%253D20004%2526ca mpid%253D5337976231%2526mpre%253Dhttps%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.ebay.com% 25252Fitm%25252FPorsche-911%25252F142793401437%25253Fhash%25253Ditem213f26645d%25253Ag%25253Akg4 AAOSwkxRasqio%2526srcrot%253D711-53200-19255-0%2526rvr_id%253D1531021756511%2526rvr_ts%253D60d123a81630a9cb901454c7ff eed033
05-17-2018, 08:44 AM
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This car was originally for sale by Robb Francis in Peapack that is where the pictures were taken. I saw the car about a year ago and it was a bit rough but what I consider a relatively honest car for reasonable money. i did not give it an intensive look over and know of a couple of people who were interested and passed on it looking for a nicer example. It did have a go at BaT but reserve not met at $137k. Not sure why the car didn't sell. It was in better condition than the silver one that also did not sell on BaT that brought more a week or so before.
For some reason everyone thinks they will find a pristine example for $150k which has proven to be a pipe dream. Decent drivers like this should be selling for $150k to $175k or so but the truly nice pristine low mile examples are privately trading hands for between $250k and $340k. Several very nice examples have sold for these numbers in the past year.
I know of over a dozen people looking for these and everyone wants a pristine car for driver money. It might happen but I highly doubt it. Cars like these just sit as people get an education.
For some reason everyone thinks they will find a pristine example for $150k which has proven to be a pipe dream. Decent drivers like this should be selling for $150k to $175k or so but the truly nice pristine low mile examples are privately trading hands for between $250k and $340k. Several very nice examples have sold for these numbers in the past year.
I know of over a dozen people looking for these and everyone wants a pristine car for driver money. It might happen but I highly doubt it. Cars like these just sit as people get an education.
05-17-2018, 01:11 PM
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I agree Anthony. So here's my impression of what's going on,.. & maybe why this one hasn't sold,...
You called it a "Driver",.... I'll add to that, & call it "Drivers CONDITION" ... and if that's true, ... then the problem is that "most" buyers that are considering a '94 3.6, are probably looking at it as an investment with the hopes of profit down the road {which is of course now combined with their new-found absolute LOVE for this body style RIGHT!! Lol},.. and so they plan to let it SIT in a collection or garage somewhere, with very limited "driving". Their intent is not to buy a "Driver",.... but rather, like you said, a pristine example,... and can't find one at a "drivers price".
By definition: A person who is a "Driver" is willing to spend cash to improve, maintain & otherwise put $$$ into their car because they want it to DRIVE well,... for their driving pleasure. It is just the COST of doing business / cost of ownership. We suck it up.
But folks who do not care if they get X number of Twisty Road Drives per year,... are really looking at future $$ ROI.
You said it well in your last comment, which is DEAD ON CORRECT....
Now SOME of the 3.6's out there truly do have a valid & good reason for sitting. Super low mileage, movie cars, cars owned by celebrities, etc. Those surely deserve to be put on another level as a collectible, and can command the attention & pricing.
To me, it's just a shame that it has come to this with all the average examples out there. I am SUCH a "driver" type person, that I hate the fact that these were once, in their hay-day, driven & enjoyed like what they were made-for,... and now have become dust collectors sitting on speculation. That just bugs me. J & I just love driving ours so much that I thank my lucky stars we bought ours so long ago. If I did not already own a 964T, there would be no way I could get into one now. It would just not be justifiable in our lives,... and I would be missing one of the most pleasurable aspects of owning one of these toys.
And this is why I LOVE the fact that you still drive yours Tony. In your heart of hearts, you are a driver too.
my .02
=Steve
You called it a "Driver",.... I'll add to that, & call it "Drivers CONDITION" ... and if that's true, ... then the problem is that "most" buyers that are considering a '94 3.6, are probably looking at it as an investment with the hopes of profit down the road {which is of course now combined with their new-found absolute LOVE for this body style RIGHT!! Lol},.. and so they plan to let it SIT in a collection or garage somewhere, with very limited "driving". Their intent is not to buy a "Driver",.... but rather, like you said, a pristine example,... and can't find one at a "drivers price".
By definition: A person who is a "Driver" is willing to spend cash to improve, maintain & otherwise put $$$ into their car because they want it to DRIVE well,... for their driving pleasure. It is just the COST of doing business / cost of ownership. We suck it up.
But folks who do not care if they get X number of Twisty Road Drives per year,... are really looking at future $$ ROI.
You said it well in your last comment, which is DEAD ON CORRECT....
To me, it's just a shame that it has come to this with all the average examples out there. I am SUCH a "driver" type person, that I hate the fact that these were once, in their hay-day, driven & enjoyed like what they were made-for,... and now have become dust collectors sitting on speculation. That just bugs me. J & I just love driving ours so much that I thank my lucky stars we bought ours so long ago. If I did not already own a 964T, there would be no way I could get into one now. It would just not be justifiable in our lives,... and I would be missing one of the most pleasurable aspects of owning one of these toys.
And this is why I LOVE the fact that you still drive yours Tony. In your heart of hearts, you are a driver too.
my .02
=Steve
05-18-2018, 08:01 AM
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^^^ Good to know, I am surprised some of these went unsold for as long as they have. Frank's Midnight blue he sold to HRM I know sold at close to the $295k asking price after sitting for over a year. Someone got a nice example there. A bunch of others seem to be moving finally. Unfortunately most of these cars are not in the virgin condition that collectors want or are willing to pay up for. Although there have been low mile examples with complete resprays bringing $300k which I don't get.
05-21-2018, 08:31 PM
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A top shape / low mileage 964 turbo is still a good deal for actual use, if one compares the eventual appreciation of earlier cars - my 73 s is worth about 26X what it sold for originally. These are still in the 2X range even at $250K.
BARGAIN!
Get em while you can.
BARGAIN!
Get em while you can.