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Old 12-23-2016, 10:59 PM
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Default Maritime Blue 964 Cup Car

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https://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/cars-for-sale/porsche/911/1903131.html

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For those of you that are in the details, particularly around suspension details...

This is what it looks like when you mount the longitudinal subframe members in the outboard (wide Turbo-look) position on a narrow body car.
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wow - holy moly
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Auction: Feb 8, 2017

Location: Paris, France
Stock #: PA17_r111

Seller’s Description: 1991 Porsche 911 Carrera Cup
To be OFFERED AT AUCTION at RM Sotheby's Paris event, February 8, 2017.Type 964. 260 bhp, 3,600 cc SOHC air-cooled horizontally opposed six-cylinder engine with electronic fuel injection, five-speed manual transmission, front and rear independent suspension with front coil springs and McPherson struts, rear semi-trailing arms, adjustable anti-roll bars, and four-wheel hydraulic disc brakes with ABS. Wheelbase: 2,270 mm
  • One of only 270 Carrera Cup cars produced; just 120 in 1991
  • Three-time Nürburgring 24 Hours Participant; 3rd overall in 1991 and 4th in 1993
  • Completely rebuilt in 2015 by SMART Motorsport; restored to original Maritime Blue
  • Original engine, rebuilt with “zero kilometres” in 2016
  • Includes German road registration documents
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Building on Porsche’s reputation for exemplary production-based racing cars, the Type 964 Carrera Cup was introduced in 1990. Competition Department modifications included the loss of 250 kilograms, modest power increase, suspension geometry changes, modified gear ratios, no power steering, and the addition of a competition welded roll-cage.This Carrera Cup was originally delivered to Walter Knebel Motorsport for future Porsche Works driver Uwe Alzen to drive in the 1991 Porsche Carrera Cup Germany. A relatively modest 11th position in the 1991 Championship—including 3rd place at the Alemennenring, 5th at Silverstone, and 6th at Spa—was surpassed by an excellent 3rd overall in the stand-alone Nürburgring 24 Hours, with Alzen joined in the car by brother Jürgen, and Thomas Lischke.In 1992, the car was sold to Jürgen Alzen’s own team for the Nordschleife-based VLN series and yielded 16th overall in the Nürburgring 24 Hours, driven by the elder Alzen, Bernd Maylander and Hans Stuckenbrock. The car was re-shelled that year with a correct factory replacement (the original invoice is retained), and a similar schedule for 1993 saw the car place 4th in the 24 Hours once again, driven by Jürgen Alzen, Thomas Lischke, and Frank Schmickler. Sold by Alzen in 1995, and with three subsequent German owners, the car was acquired by the vendor in 2014 and has recently benefited from a complete restoration to original 1991 specification, including bare metal paint in the original Maritime Blue. The original engine was also acquired and has been freshly rebuilt. Importantly, the competition history is supported by the all-important ONS Wagenpass and has been confirmed by the Alzen brothers.
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I wonder what effect the in-period "re-shell" (and presumably hard crash that preceded it) will have on value...
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Originally Posted by JJJMCD
I wonder what effect the in-period "re-shell" (and presumably hard crash that preceded it) will have on value...
The 964 Cups were raced hard and put away wet, a lot of the pro raced cars from the early nineties were damaged some substantially, the retub is a bonus.

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I thought posting **** would result in the poster getting the ban hammer.... Moderators are slipping these days!

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Love the front camber!
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[QUOTE=993PET;13834901]The 964 Cups were raced hard and put away wet, a lot of the pro raced cars from the early nineties were damaged some substantially, the retub is a bonus.

Depends who's buying. To a collector the re-tub is a big deal.
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Cool car ! Need to replace the shifter though.
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It looks like the upper strut mounts have not been reversed to bring the suspension back into standard camber. The problem is though that you can't do this with a narrow body without hitting the upper gender.



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