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Paul. I agree with the other's comments, the 964 should have no bouncyness when cornering, at any speed.
By the way, you were lucky it wasn't an undercover police car!
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Originally posted by DaveK
I agree - after my moment of madness I am happy with my 964 again. Apart from the fact that I'm sure it's started making a noise when I turn left.....
Anyway - Paul, my car is chipped by JZM although I'm not sure it has really made a lot of difference. But for your bouncy cornering, I think Christer is right - you probably need to take a look at your suspension. I've cornered at 150mph and the car is completely stable. I've even had a girlfriend in the car at high speed and even she has commented that it feels just like it does at 50mph. But - I do have a RUF suspension kit and can't remember if I tried 150mph cornering before that.
I agree - after my moment of madness I am happy with my 964 again. Apart from the fact that I'm sure it's started making a noise when I turn left.....
Anyway - Paul, my car is chipped by JZM although I'm not sure it has really made a lot of difference. But for your bouncy cornering, I think Christer is right - you probably need to take a look at your suspension. I've cornered at 150mph and the car is completely stable. I've even had a girlfriend in the car at high speed and even she has commented that it feels just like it does at 50mph. But - I do have a RUF suspension kit and can't remember if I tried 150mph cornering before that.
with cat bypass, airflow kit and chip.
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Guys,
Cornering any road car at 150 mph is going far beyond the limits. The normal tyres are just not up to this kind of driving. Our 964s are getting on in years, they are not at their peak as they were when new. Regardless of what suspension mods you have done etc this kind of driving is asking for trouble. Please do not let your ambitions overcome your capabilities or the capabilities of your Porsche. I hate going to funerals.
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Cornering any road car at 150 mph is going far beyond the limits. The normal tyres are just not up to this kind of driving. Our 964s are getting on in years, they are not at their peak as they were when new. Regardless of what suspension mods you have done etc this kind of driving is asking for trouble. Please do not let your ambitions overcome your capabilities or the capabilities of your Porsche. I hate going to funerals.
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I have MANY friends with BMWs...I always joke that they are for women or G__ men. ![hiha](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/roflmao.gif)
Rest assured, I'm just joking.![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
They are plush, but they can be damned fast too!![EEK!](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif)
One of my buddy's has an E36 M3 LIGHTWEIGHT and it's tough work to hang with him - but he's not "untouchable".![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
SO, go cure your woes by holding your drink between your thighs (after all, we have NO cup holder) and throw some more oil absorbant on your garage floor...right about where the engine sits when parked and you'll be cured, think about it - you'll miss ALL of that!
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Rest assured, I'm just joking.
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They are plush, but they can be damned fast too!
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One of my buddy's has an E36 M3 LIGHTWEIGHT and it's tough work to hang with him - but he's not "untouchable".
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SO, go cure your woes by holding your drink between your thighs (after all, we have NO cup holder) and throw some more oil absorbant on your garage floor...right about where the engine sits when parked and you'll be cured, think about it - you'll miss ALL of that!
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OK as an ex Bimmer owner. I've owned 4 to date:
*325is- fully modified 240hp (experienced rear subframe failure)
*95 M3 (US spec) Supercharged 365hp
*99 M coupe Supercharge 380hp (experienced rear subframe failure)
*M Roadster stock 240 hp
I almost bought the new M, but when I saw that most owners have dealt with engine failure which really bothered me. To that effect, the 3.2L I-6 is so high strung, that the car simply can not cope with any type of serious modifications without exploding. The older generation engines could at least handle Turbo or Superchargers without major hickups, but not the newest version.
I FEEL THAT BMWs ARE SIMPLY MARGINALY BUILT... Just enough to get by.
With a few mods, the cars were falling apart! 2 Subframe failures because they under built most of the cars!!
How will the M3 engine hold up in 5+years or so when the good old warranty is expired?
Besides, most BMW enthusiasts regard Porsches as the next step up.
My 13 year old Porsche makes a healthy 600 crand HP, and is as tight as can be. I don't think the Bavarian cars could do the same after that long...
*325is- fully modified 240hp (experienced rear subframe failure)
*95 M3 (US spec) Supercharged 365hp
*99 M coupe Supercharge 380hp (experienced rear subframe failure)
*M Roadster stock 240 hp
I almost bought the new M, but when I saw that most owners have dealt with engine failure which really bothered me. To that effect, the 3.2L I-6 is so high strung, that the car simply can not cope with any type of serious modifications without exploding. The older generation engines could at least handle Turbo or Superchargers without major hickups, but not the newest version.
I FEEL THAT BMWs ARE SIMPLY MARGINALY BUILT... Just enough to get by.
With a few mods, the cars were falling apart! 2 Subframe failures because they under built most of the cars!!
How will the M3 engine hold up in 5+years or so when the good old warranty is expired?
Besides, most BMW enthusiasts regard Porsches as the next step up.
My 13 year old Porsche makes a healthy 600 crand HP, and is as tight as can be. I don't think the Bavarian cars could do the same after that long...
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The E46 M3 is straight on a quicker car, but is no where close to being as connected to the road or as fun to drive as the 964. The steering is numb and the driving experience is somewhat sterile. In the year and change that I had my M3 I went thru two cars (the first one was taken back by the dealer) and enjoyed the car but it became quickly superfluous after I got my RSA this spring. The ignition problems I had over the last several months clinched it for me and I traded it in for a "family sedan" 745i. I really do not miss it. I think the quality is on par with Porsche, but the driving experience is not even close. Dont sell your 964!
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I don't want to be bandwagonesque, but I shared Adrian's thoughts when I read the dove post. Glad my wife and daughter weren't out driving that day.
There's a time and a place for one-fifty, IMO.
There's a time and a place for one-fifty, IMO.
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Hey Dave,
guess you already figured it all out, but I still wanna voice my opinion, which is: the M3 is still based on the 3 series platform, and, to many layman, looks very much like the typical lesser inspired 3 series sedan. A 911 will always have more charm and, perhaps, respect on the road, I think M3s are lovely cars, but I doubt this will ever change; BMW would have to build a totally separate platform to really compete with the mystique of a 911. No offense to the BMW owners out there! Every single time I get in my C4 I'm happy, no matter how bad of a day I have it - always makes me happy. And even when my car acts up and has to be serviced, as soon as its back on the road, all problems are forgotten. Not many cars can do that for you. I never owned an M3, but I can't imagine getting the same satisfaction out of one... guess i'm preaching to the choir at this point!
Ken.
guess you already figured it all out, but I still wanna voice my opinion, which is: the M3 is still based on the 3 series platform, and, to many layman, looks very much like the typical lesser inspired 3 series sedan. A 911 will always have more charm and, perhaps, respect on the road, I think M3s are lovely cars, but I doubt this will ever change; BMW would have to build a totally separate platform to really compete with the mystique of a 911. No offense to the BMW owners out there! Every single time I get in my C4 I'm happy, no matter how bad of a day I have it - always makes me happy. And even when my car acts up and has to be serviced, as soon as its back on the road, all problems are forgotten. Not many cars can do that for you. I never owned an M3, but I can't imagine getting the same satisfaction out of one... guess i'm preaching to the choir at this point!
Ken.
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Originally posted by Johnny G
I don't want to be bandwagonesque, but I shared Adrian's thoughts when I read the dove post. Glad my wife and daughter weren't out driving that day.
There's a time and a place for one-fifty, IMO.
I don't want to be bandwagonesque, but I shared Adrian's thoughts when I read the dove post. Glad my wife and daughter weren't out driving that day.
There's a time and a place for one-fifty, IMO.
Paul
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