964 vs some modern stuff
I did a four car drive yesterday, which was a work leaving present. A carrera S, guillardo, Aston V8 vantage and Ferrari 360 (I think) round a small circuit. Not really long enough in each for a proper judgement but it confirmed what fun the 964 is. Basically all felt so much more modern and I doubt at road speeds much different to many saloons. Would get board quite quickly I think. With the 964 it is a grin every time and so much more feel in the pedals and steering. Now I just need to finish my oil tank refurb and get back on the road ASAP.
^^ have to agree. I did a car swap tour with an R8, 991s, f430, SLS, Viper, Maserati GranTurismo and I have to say that far and away the Ferrari was not only the best car of the bunch, it was the best car I've ever driven.
Hate to say it, but Ferrari haters are simply that; Ferrari (like Porsche) is not a gimmick at all and delivers an outstanding product.
But until I can afford to buy and maintain one, it's all 964 for me
Hate to say it, but Ferrari haters are simply that; Ferrari (like Porsche) is not a gimmick at all and delivers an outstanding product.
But until I can afford to buy and maintain one, it's all 964 for me
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Don't get me wrong, out of the four the Ferrari was the best and lovely engine note, and I am not saying the 964 is a better car. However, the main thing I got out of the day was a whole new appreciation of my 964 I already have. On public road speeds and the track it just gives so much.
Would be great to have both.
Would be great to have both.
I was sticking tongue in cheek. Our 355 and the 360 challenge race car basically never run. But when they do, they are awesome...
I drive a Porsche basically because it starts. If the Ferrari were trouble free, I'd buy a 355 coupe as a daily.
I drive a Porsche basically because it starts. If the Ferrari were trouble free, I'd buy a 355 coupe as a daily.
I am now well into my ownership change from my track focused 964C2 which I had for nine years to my 'modern' Cayman R. And have to say that I am delighted with change.
The delight is because the R brings those same things that I loved the 964 for. By that I mean that I can feel the connection to the road both through the steering wheel and my backside. Just like the 964, the suspension is slightly too firm (in a good way) and it jiggles about on the road, letting me know what's underneath me. Like the 964 if feels a special place to be and more focused than the regular S model.
What's surprising is that mine is PDK and is just as much fun to drive as a manual box. I drive it mostly with the paddles and can row up and down the box as if I had a gear stick to work. I can even blip the throttle on a down shift and heel and toe. The latter is completely unnecessary but it makes a great noise and is immense fun!
I can safely say that Porsche have still built some great, fun cars recently and I'm feeling smug that I managed to pick an R now that the newest Cayman is going to lose a couple of cylinders!
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The delight is because the R brings those same things that I loved the 964 for. By that I mean that I can feel the connection to the road both through the steering wheel and my backside. Just like the 964, the suspension is slightly too firm (in a good way) and it jiggles about on the road, letting me know what's underneath me. Like the 964 if feels a special place to be and more focused than the regular S model.
What's surprising is that mine is PDK and is just as much fun to drive as a manual box. I drive it mostly with the paddles and can row up and down the box as if I had a gear stick to work. I can even blip the throttle on a down shift and heel and toe. The latter is completely unnecessary but it makes a great noise and is immense fun!
I can safely say that Porsche have still built some great, fun cars recently and I'm feeling smug that I managed to pick an R now that the newest Cayman is going to lose a couple of cylinders!
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Boxsey, the R is a great machine as is PDK. I couldn't fault mine except that I am a tinkerer and it needed nothing. In addition I felt that the owner support for the R would take many years to reach the 964 level which I enjoy so much. In fact the R owners on Pistonheads spent so much time discussing values and PDK vs Manual I felt little affinity. Again a great car but I ended up restoring my C4 as my life car.
+1 on the F430 what a special noise. After that I would say the GT3 is in the same league...and perhaps even more comfortable on the track.
^^ have to agree. I did a car swap tour with an R8, 991s, f430, SLS, Viper, Maserati GranTurismo and I have to say that far and away the Ferrari was not only the best car of the bunch, it was the best car I've ever driven.
Hate to say it, but Ferrari haters are simply that; Ferrari (like Porsche) is not a gimmick at all and delivers an outstanding product.
But until I can afford to buy and maintain one, it's all 964 for me
Hate to say it, but Ferrari haters are simply that; Ferrari (like Porsche) is not a gimmick at all and delivers an outstanding product.
But until I can afford to buy and maintain one, it's all 964 for me





