cobalt

Here is another supposedly low mileage RSA. No mention of the Big red update roll cage and front ducts or any history. I have no doubt if this is a 24k mile car every mile was as a track car. I love the comment "captures the spirit of" the 73 RS. In what way? I find very few that have accurate odo readings and have not been extensively tracked. Yet there seem to be many that are trying to pass them off as street driven cars.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...m=131769205856

K964

Love these threads. Esp all the negative comments. Almost makes me want to visit the 991 GT3 forum where everybody blows sunshine up each others ***. Haha

JG 996T

That High Marques red car looks good in person. Not sure about the asking.

Spyerx

Just calling a spade a spade. Cool car, not worth the asking on these. They WERE worth every penny when they were closer to the C2 values. But not a 2x differential... At 100k I'm buying a 996 or 997 GT3!

No, the 991 GT3 board is perfect if you like to discuss deviated color schemes, nano coatings, and "how come porsche won't let me buy an RS" threads.

GTgears

Weren't the 964s subject to a head gasket issue that led to a lot of early top end work on them?

K964

I agree with the crazy values. But the market is the market. But then also look at the 40k SCs and even 50k+ Carreras.

Re 991 GT3 board, did you see the thread on "Deviated stitching on dash matches stitching on wife's tampon"?

HalV

No. Possible issues with regard to head gaskets were resolved by the time the RSAs were introduced.

GTgears

Got it. Thanks. I don't know the subtle nuances of the 964 engine issues other than that the HG issue and the dizzy overheating issues exist. What years and variants they cover is outside my knowledge.

cobalt

I have known this car for a long time the owner took nice care of it. There is a Pano article back in 2005 picturing my turbo and the red RSA side by side at Pocono race track. The paint is a little rough and it is missing a lot of the original RSA parts but a nice car. I agree I think all of them are overpriced for what they are. To me it is just another C2 tub. But John has to make a living and it is more reasonable than the 73 RS for $1.3M.

The early cars were, they had corrected all of this by the time the RSA was released. There are more differences between the early 89 through mid 91 cars than I can list.

A well treated later model 964 should last a long time without any top end work. The biggest concern are the valve guides which can wear prematurely which is a problem for the 3.6L engines in general. My 93 C2 has 61k miles. It was extensively tracked and it still runs like new. No oil leaks or oil related smoke.

A lot of how these cars hold up is how the original owner treats them. Proper break in and allowing the car to warm up before pushing it can make a huge difference. At 42k miles I had Dan Jacobs do a leakdown and compression and the numbers were perfect with 1-2% in all cylinders. Numbers haven't changed much despite the additional mileage and hard use.

u7t2p7

In approximately 2004-5 I purchased a one owner 110k miles black RSA from Hawaii for $19k. It was probably $6-7k under market at the time. Cost me $2,100 to get it to the east coast. Drove it 2-3 years and sold it to a fellow from Australia. Talk about a car going "full circle;" Germany-Hawaii-NY-Australia.

Trader220

I sold my 42k mile RSA in 2001 for $36k LOL.

There used to be a really long running thread here about whether or not an RSA was worth buying for $35k or so vs. buying a regular C2 coupe for $25k. IIRC there were dozens of pages and the debate rambled on and on.

I find the prices for RSA's almost laughable these days.

This dealer has been listing this one for over a year:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Porsche-911-...m=121942862269

Its missing the correct seats and the rear package tray along with some trim items. I would bet it was modded for the track and the owner then sold off those items. Based on what I have learned in talking to that dealer on several cars I wouldn't buy anything from them.

cobalt

Those days are long gone. I remember the thread well. Hindsight is 20/20.

I bet you 90% of all RSA's fall into this category. It is another one of those cars that needs to be stock original to warrant the extreme asking prices. The rest are significantly overpriced.

I know of a couple sub 20k mile examples that are 100% original condition but the owners have no interest in selling.

BTW here is a picture of the red car and mine at Pocono back in 2005. The RSA was in like new condition at the time.

FYI this is not the picture used in Pano.

997rs4.0

There are so many new Porsche enthusiasts in today's market. Let them buy tracked RSA for $100k.
A super low mile original RSA is worth to collect. Everything else is just a c2 with some deletes that deserves to be driven and modded to perfection.

LPMM

Same here, a neighbor has a completely original GPW RSA with ~12K miles, and he is not looking to sell.

J richard

Original 20k miles still has the engine tray in place...

It's all a matter of perspective, I've have/had four of these and I do think they are the culmination of the classic aircooled 911. However I wouldn't shell out 100k for one. I was trying to find a nice C2 coupe for a driver, for the money still a reach for a clean unmolested one. Just bought a Cayman S instead....