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Old 02-29-2016, 07:52 PM
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Default Glory Hallelujah! Check Out This Heavenly Singer 1990 Porsche 911



After seeing this beautiful Singer 1990 Porsche 911, there's a good chance you'll be singing Singer's praises.

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If rennlist becomes this commercial...I'm out.
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Originally Posted by Goughary
If rennlist becomes this commercial...I'm out.
Glory Hallelujah to that!
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i prefer the regular 964 look. myself.
Old 02-29-2016, 11:26 PM
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I would think this should just be another thread on RL... Happy to read about and look at the pics, but no other significance in my p-car ownership experience. More boutique projects that I would never afford myself. Like the wheel offset and stance in the pic.

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Originally Posted by creaturecat
i prefer the regular 964 look. myself.
Agree. Stock 964s Rock!
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I think it's a stunning piece of work. Everything I have read about Singer says high quality and high design.
The big issue to me is the cost—it's outrageous. It's a car for very few people.
The other thing about Singer is that they are "standing on the shoulders of giants" and are working on a canvas that's already complete—which makes it a lot easier to be successful. You won't see them do the same thing to a Plymouth.
Old 03-01-2016, 09:24 AM
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Well,

lets see...

They make say 10 cars a year at 400,000 each.
Total 4,000,000 revenues

Each Chassis costs about 50,000 x 10= 500,000
Engine build: 300,000
Chassis build: 400,000
Other parts: 200,000
Employees at 50k a year (say 10) = 500,000
Rent/Lease, etc.: 50,000
Supplies and Shop: 25,000
Marketing: 50,000
Tools and misc: 25,000
Total: 2,050,000

Net: 1,950,000

From a business perspective, it wouldnt make sense otherwise and I'd charge the same.
Old 03-01-2016, 05:51 PM
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^^ I think your math is off. But I agree, profit is not a dirty word.

I'd want a singer that still looks like a 964. Cf body, 4 liter motor, but no backdate
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For me it's not profit, it's value.
Old 03-01-2016, 06:57 PM
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My guess is you are very light on the COGS side. Employee/labor expense is way low plus benefits, Insurance, marketing, accountants, lawyers etc etc etc. I would expect that they had a fortune in upfront expense to make molds , design the car etc etc that needs to amortized as an expense of each car produced. I would be surprised if net net they are making 20% or $80K/car.
Knowing what it takes to build a car like this from scratch I think the buyers are getting a good value at $400K.


Originally Posted by Undutched
Well,

lets see...

They make say 10 cars a year at 400,000 each.
Total 4,000,000 revenues

Each Chassis costs about 50,000 x 10= 500,000
Engine build: 300,000
Chassis build: 400,000
Other parts: 200,000
Employees at 50k a year (say 10) = 500,000
Rent/Lease, etc.: 50,000
Supplies and Shop: 25,000
Marketing: 50,000
Tools and misc: 25,000
Total: 2,050,000

Net: 1,950,000

From a business perspective, it wouldnt make sense otherwise and I'd charge the same.
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Has anyone seen the actual cost of a project?
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I love the car, respect the build skills (much respect the build), but IDK. Just something about them I'm not a fan of. They look like cars that aren't driven though.
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Originally Posted by DobermanDad
They look like cars that aren't driven though.
Whaddya mean? What could possibly be more practical than a leather-lined engine department?



Cool, but sh i i ttty value.

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Singer does not buy the chassis/donor car. The end customer does. Each car is a commission.
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