Buy or Run?
01-13-2016, 04:37 PM
#16
Three Wheelin'
Make sure to PPI at an independent shop. Get it paint metered. Best of luck.
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01-13-2016, 05:47 PM
#18
Agent Orange
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Guys, LuxSport is on Long Island. This dealer in in Oregon. Similar names, but not the same 
And to the OP, goes without saying but agree on a price before going for a PPI...
And to the OP, goes without saying but agree on a price before going for a PPI...
01-13-2016, 06:12 PM
#19
Burning Brakes
It is from eastern Ontario.
They do get lots of snow and in the 90's would have used a lot of salt on the roads.
However, you do not know if it was even driven in the winter.
Sports seat are really nice to have. I think it also has the full leather dash.
Shift ****, carpets, peddles seem to confirm that it is not a high millage car.
Is the tool kit and compressor there? Is there full documentation?
Given that you may be paying at the top of the market you should expect it to come clean and complete.
Also as you are at the top of the market they surely would allow you the time to get a full PPI at an independent mechanic.
You may want to agree to a higher price but on the provision that the PPI is clean and if not negotiate down the price for needed repairs.
As I said in other posts if you want a really clean car you should expect to pay a lot more for it.
They do get lots of snow and in the 90's would have used a lot of salt on the roads.
However, you do not know if it was even driven in the winter.
Sports seat are really nice to have. I think it also has the full leather dash.
Shift ****, carpets, peddles seem to confirm that it is not a high millage car.
Is the tool kit and compressor there? Is there full documentation?
Given that you may be paying at the top of the market you should expect it to come clean and complete.
Also as you are at the top of the market they surely would allow you the time to get a full PPI at an independent mechanic.
You may want to agree to a higher price but on the provision that the PPI is clean and if not negotiate down the price for needed repairs.
As I said in other posts if you want a really clean car you should expect to pay a lot more for it.
01-13-2016, 09:13 PM
#22
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01-13-2016, 09:19 PM
#23
I absolutely love the description for it. "Stick shift! Red Hot!"
Definitely get a PPI done. It should help you negotiate a better price because that price is pretty high and only justified if perfect. If there are some issues you can always negotiate. Better safe than sorry.
Just for some fun here is the greatest car advert in history. This was on Craigslist, not that you really had to be told (only on Craigslist can you find ads like these)
Definitely get a PPI done. It should help you negotiate a better price because that price is pretty high and only justified if perfect. If there are some issues you can always negotiate. Better safe than sorry.
Just for some fun here is the greatest car advert in history. This was on Craigslist, not that you really had to be told (only on Craigslist can you find ads like these)
Last edited by kokolyia; 01-14-2016 at 08:37 AM.
01-15-2016, 09:36 AM
#25
01-15-2016, 09:50 AM
#26
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What makes a leaking engine in a C4 worse than one in a C2. This could be the typical oil lines leaking but if it is the head gasket issue. He could be looking at thousands to have repaired. That is why i say low ball it or make it contingent on what needs to be done.
01-15-2016, 10:08 AM
#27
Run
Everyone's comfort level may be different. If your a Porsche mechanic my comment does not apply. If your not this car has 3 strikes (for my type of planning which is "can I stomach the worst case scenario").
1) I have gotten ripped of by a dealer a couple of times but never an individual.
2) The 4 wheel drive system which is 26 years old may be expensive to repair if it is not fully sorted
3) The car leaking may be tens of thousands )not thousands -ask me how I know).
1) I have gotten ripped of by a dealer a couple of times but never an individual.
2) The 4 wheel drive system which is 26 years old may be expensive to repair if it is not fully sorted
3) The car leaking may be tens of thousands )not thousands -ask me how I know).
01-15-2016, 02:19 PM
#28
The only leaking in a 964 engine that one should be really worried about is the split seal where the block splits in half. Then you've got real trouble and will have to do a rebuild. That and oil gushing out are all bad things.
01-15-2016, 05:48 PM
#29
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Everyone's comfort level may be different. If your a Porsche mechanic my comment does not apply. If your not this car has 3 strikes (for my type of planning which is "can I stomach the worst case scenario").
1) I have gotten ripped of by a dealer a couple of times but never an individual.
2) The 4 wheel drive system which is 26 years old may be expensive to repair if it is not fully sorted
3) The car leaking may be tens of thousands )not thousands -ask me how I know).
1) I have gotten ripped of by a dealer a couple of times but never an individual.
2) The 4 wheel drive system which is 26 years old may be expensive to repair if it is not fully sorted
3) The car leaking may be tens of thousands )not thousands -ask me how I know).
The more you educate yourself about these cars the easier it is to spot a potential problem. I agree The car could have costly repairs but until it is looked at closely we won't know so I wouldn't run until I investigate more closely. Make an offer contingent on a good PPI by an experienced air cooled 911 mechanic if it doesn't read well you can always walk. Finding any car without issues today is nearly an impossibility although the occasional one does pop up. The market has been combed over and most of the product is overpriced and not as described. If you want one you may have to settle and figure on sorting it out. Unfortunately anyone coming to the game now is on the late side.
01-15-2016, 06:27 PM
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Problem is any 20+ year old air cooled 911 can be a maintenance nightmare. Tens of thousands on a rebuild would be an extreme scenario. Everyone is a thief and it is always buyer beware.
The more you educate yourself about these cars the easier it is to spot a potential problem. I agree The car could have costly repairs but until it is looked at closely we won't know so I wouldn't run until I investigate more closely. Make an offer contingent on a good PPI by an experienced air cooled 911 mechanic if it doesn't read well you can always walk. Finding any car without issues today is nearly an impossibility although the occasional one does pop up. The market has been combed over and most of the product is overpriced and not as described. If you want one you may have to settle and figure on sorting it out. Unfortunately anyone coming to the game now is on the late side.
The more you educate yourself about these cars the easier it is to spot a potential problem. I agree The car could have costly repairs but until it is looked at closely we won't know so I wouldn't run until I investigate more closely. Make an offer contingent on a good PPI by an experienced air cooled 911 mechanic if it doesn't read well you can always walk. Finding any car without issues today is nearly an impossibility although the occasional one does pop up. The market has been combed over and most of the product is overpriced and not as described. If you want one you may have to settle and figure on sorting it out. Unfortunately anyone coming to the game now is on the late side.