ACSGP

To be honest, the only 2 things that the 993 offers beyond a 964 is the multi-link rear suspension, and, in later cars, the varioram.

BUT, I hate the slightly melted look of the 993, especially since it lost the smile. Even Ferry Porsche wasn't a fan as he preferred the classic look. Who am I to argue

At the end of the day, I thank these 993 fanbois as they helped me buy my fully rebuilt (engine wise + drive shafts) 964 at half the price of a 993 that hadn't had it's engine rebuilt.

clinchy993

Its easy ! Have both, 2 very different cars ,nuff said

To the 993 you will never have the raw and go-kart feel of owning a 964

I took 2 x 993 owners in my 964 for some serious TD laps they were blown away but how it handled in the corners and the lightweight feel of the car

I wish my 964 had the same power as a 300+ bhp 993 It would be hard to choose which is better as they are different cars and thats the fun bit

So the punch line is its not about the money is it

Johannvb

I am on my second 964. Had an 8 year break in between, filling the gap with a 968 and 997. I am over the moon to be back in a 964. For the same money I could have had a 993, but why would I?

The 964 exudes cool from every piece of it's being. While in my opinion the 993 has the same issue as the 996 and 997. Trully beautiful and great handling machines, but because they are so pretty they lack character...and character is what make things interresting.

No one wants a good girl...

User 040621

The 964 IMHO is the pinnacle of the 'original' 911 style. It was an unappreciated model until recently. It's one of my 3 favorite physical objects designed by man - stainless Rolex sub w/date and the Gibson Les Paul being the others.

Manny Alban

Patrick Long came by the PorschePlatz tent at VIR yesterday. While waiting for the team to be introduced he has me who owns the 'white one'. Since their was a 928 parked next to my C2, I asked him if he was asking about the 928. He said, "no, the 964". I told him it was mine. He just smiled and said "you're lucky".

With that said, there was also a beautiful 993C2S in silver with BBS wheels. Stunning car. If the prices of those split grill beauties ever became affordable, I'd get one in a heart beat.

At one point, there was a 912 parked behind a 50th Anniversary 911. Almost 50 years between the two and anyone could easily see the family resemblance. Not many current models can boast that. We're lucky that Porsche chose form and function to evolve versus current fads.

STUARTQ

When the 964 came out, I don't remember stories of them being bad cars and not very popular, that came from a world recession and people not having the money to buy them that made them a slow seller.
However, when the 993 was introduced as the world was coming out of recession, its bold styling changes and other improvements made it a best seller.
I was in my early 30's when the 993 came out and made my mind up that wanted a 993.
a couple of years go by and I decided it was time for me to buy first Porsche, a 2 year old 993.
Looked at a few and decided that with a young family, maybe it was more money than I could really afford or was comfortable to spend.
The dealer pointed me in the direction of a 3-4 year old 964.
You're kidding I told, it's so out dated and I never considered a 964 until almost 20 years go by and suddenly, I see their beauty!

I bought one of the last 996's, absolutely fantastic car to drive, I became addicted to it, even though it was only intended as a weekend a drive out car, not a daily driver.
But I have to say, I feel like the 964 will be a more personal car, something I feel more involved with, not just a car I covert, but a car I want to mould into my own.

cobalt

Hate to say it but the 964 was and will be known as the best all around 911. I have been saying it for over a decade after years of owning torsion bar 911's. I had the opportunity to buy 993's and 993TT's but it always came down to what gave me the biggest smile and the 964 has never paled. A tribute to the sports car world at its pinnacle before electronic aids. You love it or hate it but there is no substitute. Rarity and unique allure will always make this the one to own. Although I think the RSA will triumph and i have no understanding why they are all a great experience and something that can never be replicated by modern cars today.

Navaros911

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BeachBoy

For me I wanted the upright headlights and air cooled. The 964 was my choice because it was the more modern car of the old style 911s.

I'm sure I'm not the only one and that's what's driving the prices up. I don't want a 993 even for the same money.

Tmistry

I wouldn't trade my 964 for a 993. Just a different look that doesn't do it for me. I'm certain the 993 is a rewarding car on it's own merit. If there's a downside to the recognition being give to the 964, it's that the cars are less likely to see modification and personalization in the name of investment. Part of what drew me to the 964 was that I could make it mine by customizing the interior a bit and doing some tasteful (to me) upgrades to enhance the car. I couldn't do this to other cars that were concours type vehicles. I'm really attracted to the outlaw culture around the 911 and the 964 is just perfect.

FaustoGonçalves

Guys, when you say prices are going up, what's your yearly % of raise compared to previous years?
I'm looking for a 964 C4, in Europe because it's easier to access it and take it home, and prices are somewhere around 25k to 35k (euros). Is this really expensive and above market prices in the US?

I'm decided to get a 964, not a 993 or a big bumper 911 (the only 911 that would change my mind would be the 911S from 1969

911Jetta

Was this you Manny?

davidwilson11

I'm not 100% sure of the launch of the 964 but I did see bad boys a lad and decided that I wanted one. I started out with a 997 which I loved, I sold that car and started looking for something that would fit the bill. Went through a few cars and none matched the Porsche. So I started to hunt for another one, more to play with. I looked at the 993 and the 964, the more I looked the more I fell in love with the shapes and lines of the 964, I dint know back then how much they would go up in value but that doesn't matter to me as I love and won't be selling it.

For me the 964 is a choice car that is carries all the classic Porsche lineage. I love it.

Manny Alban

yup, that's me in my 147K mile C2...got lucky because they still had space for Parade laps...snuck in near the end.

Navaros911

Nice car Manny... love the stance.