Randall G.

Sorry Christer, but this is also the first time I've heard someone suggest that there's no premium on cabs. Perhaps things are different over in the UK?

Now, there is no premium to speak of for Targas, which cost about $1000 more than a coupe when new. However, considering that Porsche hasn't made the (traditional) Targa since 1994, I expect their value to rise spectacularly in the next few years or so.

I do seem to remember reading in the past (Bruce A., perhaps) that Targas and cabs are "less popular" (or something to that effect) than coupes in the used car market, because of their expensive to replace seals/tops. That would seem to suggest that Targas and cabs are significantly less expensive to purchase than coupes. But, that's not the case--at least in the US.

Christer

In the 'sale publications' the cabs are listed at a premium sometimes, the actual selling price does not necessarily match the 'for sale' price.

Randall, you live in a place where everyone should have a Cab so understand your position. Here in the UK the weather is somewhat different.

Anyway, my intention was not to start a war it was merely to point out what I perceive to be the case. All IMHO and if you want to believe I am wrong that's fine.

I rather like Dave's (Wikkid) point regarding the prices we sell at. I never really thought of that and if the Cabbies are right then a really good sorted Coupe can be had for around £15K or so in RHD. This is clearly not the case in my experience. So, are Cabs worthless (ok, there should be a space there but just for flaming purposes I left it out) or did Neil get a really ****ty price for his? Not that it matters to Neil as he has already purchased the new car so didn't need that extra £1k or whatever to make the leap to the next car.

If someone is willing to pay more for a rag-top than a coupe in our climate then that is what the market will bear. It depends on your priorities, but cabs are heavier, less rigid and in the UK keep the roof (which can leak) up most of the time. Why would you pay more. I can understand paying the same or less with our weather but not more. The few actual sales of cabs where I have seen (this was over a year ago) the price achieved would indicate that there is no premium and maybe the opposite. I guess the price is also seasonal to a point.

Anyway, I will leave the discussion now. At least the new owner got a pretty good price by the sounds of it.

Ruairidh

Where we agree is (a) we both like Dave (Wikkid's) point (b) that there are seasonal variations and (c) advertised price doesn't necessarily reflect sale price - but I'd think there was a correlation that higher ad price generally meant higher sale price (in other words the discount between ad and sale price remains constant whether you are looking at hard or soft top).

Also despite being in Texas (which means I have no personal axe to grind in this issue), I'm arguing from 4 year old knowledge of the general UK market where - generally - my experience over a 10 year buying period was that a soft top sports car commanded a premium over its hard top counterpart. I struggle to believe that 964s are any different. It is also my belief that the press - I'm thinking Classic Car and Classic and Sportscar in aprticular - are consistent in their statements to this effect.

In fact I think the price differential is less in the US than in the UK!

I'm also not going to start a war and am happy for this to be my last word but, for once, wanted to have equal airtime for a contrary point of view than Christers!!!!!!

Phil Raby

Not all the press...

Ruairidh

Yeah, I was going to make reference to your earlier post but got carried away in the typing.

Maybe we should distinguish between the press who wear yellow coats and the others .........or maybe I've been just wrong all these years!

Randall G.

Okay, eveyone pile on Christer!

Phil Raby

Nowt wrong with yellow coats!

JimBob Jumpback

Dat der sistor gotz a sassi mouth und aint be noin mutch bout autamobul valers und such. iz gotz a '76 furd LTD dat I kan selz sistor fur bout 18,000 of yer pounding thingies, wich ar wurht bout da sam as a mezican peso or italy lirer. da kar has rust wholes und such, und uzis liberating amotz of duck tape un da seetz und kloz hangur wirz to sekure sevaral body partz. but, itz bein a koop, und dont leek hardli any in da rain. soz, i be thinkin itz wurth at leest as mutch as Nelz 964 cabiolet. leez ta sistor, dat iz.

yer fren,

JimBob

NeilR

I am not trying to 'taint the market'. I just wanted to sell the car and as the buyer is the only person to show any interest, then it is foolhardy to hang out for a price that you will never get. Believe me I would have liked to get more for it, wouldn't we all !!!!!

Off to the 993 board now, thanks for all the info and keep enjoying the 964's, they are great cars..

Wikkid911

Neil, dont go. We haven't finished with you yet.

Christer

no really, I have.

Randall G.

Sistor...Uh, I mean Christer. You earned a visit from JimBob. What an honor, you lucky dog!

Ade - C4 91

Jesus JimBob, are you on drugs mate? hand them out.



Ade.

Christer

WTF?

Randall G.

sistor = rhymes with sister = rhymes with Christer. Sistor has a sassi (sassy) mouth. I think. You'll have to ask JimBob.