911Jetta

Do you think of the 964 as an 80’s car or a 90’s car?

Sure they were released in the early 90’s, and obviously engineered and developed in the 80’s (and/or redeveloped since the 60’s), but do you think of the 964 as an 80’s car? Porsche does in this recently released video from Moscow.

I’m glad Porsche included such a nice looking 964, but they really should have added an impact bumper car and called that 80’s. We know Porsche loves to throw around model designations, GTS, R, etc., but now it feels comfortable moving decades around too…beautiful “60’s’ red Longhood by the way.

I normally don’t like to be a critic because at the end of the day I’m just happy to see videos of these wonderful car. I love the car as art theme, and there are some cute scenes of people interacting with the cars. Just a few too many “lux” logos for me… AND why does the Panamera need to in what is obviously a 911 display?

Nice 964 example though! The 80’s never looked so good!

The Stig

Defo '90s not '80s.

For me, '80s is a stock broker red SC with a whale tale. Think Wall Street or American Psycho.

964s are Bad Boys. As an aside (and partial highjack) did anyone ever put a 993 in a movie?

Makmov

Yeah I would agree. The 964 is the best of the 80s Porsches. It was released originally in 1989, and carries over the old shell and interior. I would say the 993 is the first or earliest 90s car, which was in development when the 964 was being sold new.

So they got it right.

Makmov

Yes they did.

Cannon Ball Run European: The Great Escape
Una moglie bellissima
Contre-enquête
Hersey *** Güzel Olacak

and dozens of other movies, shows and documentaries.

PAULUNM

Their numbering makes no sense-

996.2 is not a 90s car
997.2 came out in 2009... so not really a '00s car...

Makmov

sure it does it is pretty sequencial in terms of development.

The only reason there is big jumps in numbers on the commercial side around the 964 is there as a bunch of race cars built and then a whole new street car development, but just about everything can be accounted for.

901: Porsche 901 prototype and show car
902: 1965 four-speed 911 transmission (and 912 internal designation)
903: 1965 prototype automatic transmission
904: 1964 Carrera GTS racecar
905: Sportomatic transmission
906: 1966 Carrera 6 racecar
907: 1967 racecar
908: 1968 racecar; 1967 prototype automatic transmission
909: 1968 hillclimb car
910: 1967 racecar
911: Six-cylinder road car
912: Four-cylinder road car
913: Unknown
914: Mid-engined road car with flat-four engine
915: 1972-1986 five-speed 911 transmission
916: 1967 DOHC six-cylinder engine; 1968 908 six-speed gearbox; 1972 mid-engined road car with flat-six engine
917: 1969 racecar
918: 1972 proposed flat-eight engine
920 Four-speed 917 transmission
921: 1961 turbine-powered racecar
922: Unknown
923: 1976 912E road car
924: 1976 front-engined road car
925: 911T/E Sportomatic transmission
926: Unknown
927: Unknown
928: 1978 V8-engined road car
929: Unknown
930: 1975-1989 911 Turbo
931: 1979-1983 924 Turbo, left-hand-drive
932: 1979-1983 924 Turbo, right-hand-drive
933: Unknown
934: Group 4 race car
935: Group 5 GT race car
936: 1976 sports race car
937: 1980 924 Carrera GT, left-hand-drive
938: 1980 924 Carrera GT, right-hand-drive
939: 1980 924 Carrera GT Le Mans
940: Unknown
941: Unknown
942: Unknown
943: 964 Tiptronic transmission
944: 1982-1989 front-engined road car (left-hand-drive)
945: 1982-1989 front-engined road car (right-hand-drive)
946: 1985-88 924S, left-hand-drive
947: 1985-88 924S, left-hand-drive
948: Unknown
949: 1984 956 transaxle
950: Unknown
951: 1985-1991 944 Turbo
952: 1985-1991 944 Turbo (right-hand drive)
953: 911-based 4x4 rally car
954: 911SC RS rally car
955: Unknown
956: 1982 Group C racecar
957: Unknown
958: Unknown
959: 1986 911-based 4x4 road car
960: 1984 928 four-speed automatic transmission
961: 1986 959-based racecar
962: 1984 Group C/IMSA racecar
963: Unknown
964: 1989-1993 911 road car
965: 1988 prototype 911 Turbo replacement
966: Unknown
967: Unknown
968: 1991-1995 front-engined road car
969: Planned name for 965 prototype
970: Panamera
971: Panamera
972: Unknown
973: Unknown
974: Unknown
975: Unknown
976: Unknown
977: Unknown
978: Unknown
979: Unknown
980: Unknown
981: Unknown
982: Unknown
983: Unknown
984: 1988 prototype entry-level road car
985: Unknown
986: 1996-2004 Boxster
987: 2005- Boxster and Cayman
988: Unknown
989: 1989 prototype saloon car
990: Unknown
991: 2012- 911 road car
992: Unknown
993: 1997-1997 911
994: Unknown
995: Prototype
996: 1997-2004 911 road car
997: 2004-2009 911 road car
998: 2009- 911 road car

Gets a little crazy at the end because they are running out of 9XX series numbers.

Porsche964FP

+1 I think of it as a 90's car.

911Jetta

With the release of the 991, a Porsche development engineer was asked what the importance of 991 was? He said it's a random number they chose to throw off other manufactures (and parts suppliers) during the early development of the new car.

Regardless, I don't want to get sucked into the Porsche code game and I don't think it answers the question of the 964 being an '80/'90s car? At least in terms of technology and the public's perception.

The 911 saw a lot of change in the '90s: 964, 993 and 996.
There just happens to be too many different '90s 911s to tell a clear story here.

I see too much '90s technology in the 964 to call it an 80's car. Look at how much of the 964 was carried over (for YEARS) into the 993. That said, I know where the 964 came from also...
Didn't Porsche quote only 15% new parts for the 993. Kinda confirms the 964 as a '90s car.

All this makes a good story in a Russian mall though...

If I could have picked the line up...
'60s: show an early car with steel wheels, obviously without flares.
'70s: then a funky colored 70's longhood.
'80s: impact bumper with wing (Turbo please!)
'90s: 993 with it's flowing fenders
'00: 997 (or maybe a flowing 996)
Today: 991

And get rid of the Panamera!

Laker

I think they just needed to space it out. Having three cars in the 90s devalues the whole evolution vs. revolution concept.

Edit:
Jetta beat me to it:

"The 911 saw a lot of change in the '90s: 964, 993 and 996.
There just happens to be too many different '90s 911s to tell a clear story here."

BigMikeATL

I see it as the last of the true 911 series. I've always viewed them as early 90's. Can't call a car with ABS and airbags an 80's car

SuperUser

There was that movie about drug reps selling Viagra that had a 993 in it.

Ken D

Sure you can. Porsche introduced ABS on the 928 in 1984, and ABS and airbags on the 944 Turbo for 1987.

I think of the 964 as somewhere betwixt & between.

freedman

3.2 Carrera is pure 80's

964 is 90's

deutschland-dobson

+964 to that

FeralComprehension

C4=90's all the way...