GREAT UK 964s FS... Which one would you take home?
 

Anyone searching - these may be some great leads! No affiliations... just browsing.

Looks like a very tidy Orange example - Cat D though, over priced?
Crying of for colour matched Speedline reps and lowering!
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3607440.htm

Another tidy looking Guards track car - wonder what the asking price is?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3597402.htm

A great Cobalt example by RPM - Reasonably priced, wonder what's the history like. I love this one!
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3592905.htm

Or how about Black - with a full engine rebuild by RPM
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3592898.htm

A tip - Midnight blue mint....
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3592898.htm

High miler but gorgeous...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3576210.htm

A member Guards track car...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3576210.htm

So guys if you could which one would you take home?

I hope you're sitting down for this.............................£27,000!!!! :eek:

He's only just finished buliding the orange one! was due to be doing the Porsche speed championship this yearIIRC (theres a thread on 911uk)

http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=70118

Would love the Cobalt one, its my absolute favourite non RS colour

They're all nicer than mine :(

What! I'm gonna re-read the specs - what's the reason!

PS. How'd you find the price?

Cobalt does rock! I like your colour combination loads - the black wheels, headlight rings and grey rock (should be your avatar)!

I want a nice immaculate C4 to keep, then I can start a mad project with my current car.....but a lotto win is required for that to come to anything......

....but for some reason I kinda like the orange one.....as a bit of a change.

A friend (already a 964 owner) made a cheeky enquiry to find out. :D

Hold on to them boys......they're in demand and prices are going up. :biggulp:

Alloy cage isnt exactly recommended, even if it is light

And 27k and the door pull rosettes are on upside down :D

The 964 has always been the unloved model, but finally seems to be getting the recognition......

....need to get a factory fresh model for keeps me thinks!

Both the RPM cars need serious money spending on them, the black one needs a respray & the blue one an engine rebuild.

Orange sold today !!

Oh really - you've seen them?

So presumably you won't be doing the speed championship this year now?

I enquired about both cars, the PPI on both was a laundry list of faults.

The black car would need £5k spending to bring it up to spec IMHO, more for the blue car.

They weren't the cars for me, but they may be right for someone else, go & look.

I've seen the black RPM one (was there visiting new premises), and would agree the bodywork does need tidying.

To a very good friend of mine! ;)

This friend doesn't happen to be an ex-964RS owner ? :)

Reading between forums I guess thats Oldtimer?

Be interesting to hear his take on the differences between it and his RS

And isn't his RS coming to Spa with its new owner, as well?

Seems to be alot of 10k cars out there advertised for 15k plus considering work needed.

Buyers looking to buy be careful!

Just bought this, pick it up in 10 days. Its going to an opc event 1st.

http://www.911virgin.com/cars/full/4..._964rmw2_2.jpg

http://www.911virgin.com/porschefors...C2ManualCoupe/

Congratulations! Looks tidy! Nice steering wheel, don't often see 'ruched leather' seats. What are your plans for it - enjoy as, any planned modifications?

:thumbup:

PS. If your local, you should come to one our London 964 meets!

Bought mine from 911 virgin, great service & top cars.

Just want to drive it really, plan to use it for 2-3k miles p/a from April till Oct.

In terms of mods I'm a bit reluctant to mess with such a nice car. I'm thinking of the rear caliper upgrade, some spacers, perhaps Eibachs and Koni's but thats it. I have an occaisional twinge in my back and dont want to lose anything in the ride quality dept. so until I've tried the Eibach / Koni setup its on ice.

Was going to go and visit RPM and take a look at the two they had in but having read that I may not bother. I have a budget of around £20k to pick up a reasonably sorted one and was leaning more towards the black one but £17k and a respray needed and a list of things to get sorted? Maybe not. Their advert says they've sorted a lot of the problems out. I take it this is not the case?

There is a load of tat around. I went to see a car described as excellent in Birmingham, what a waste of time that was, compared to mine it needed a full restoration.

I would get RPM to email you the inspection - they tell the real story. Mechanically its pretty solid, it does have an oil cooler leak, they estimate £1200 as a worst case scenario. Basically, don't take my word for it, get in touch with RPM & have a word. I'd also have a look at 911 Virgin, 20k will get you a very nice 964 IMHO

Cheers Wibbles. I'm going to have a look at them this week anyway to guage what sort of state they're in. They're only a short drive away. Was debating a full bare metal repair/respray as I was going to hang on to whatever I bought for a while and use it as a daily drive until I saw the costs of doing it!!

I have been looking at 911 virgin as well but no 964's at the moment. Also looking at the Paul Stephens Bespoke 911 based on the 964 in case I win the lottery soon

My one was 19k.

And this is why I dislike you ;)

If I'm right 911Virgin only just had time to put the ad on their website before you bought it. It just goes to show you have to move fast when the right 964 comes up. Well done, it looks like a great example. :cheers:

Just seen it....email sent

Thanks Steve,

I dont live far from 911v so it was easy for me to go down there. The noise it makes is unreal.

I looked at that car online as well, looks a beaut' in the pics and the spec is really good.

It does look good but I would really prefer a black, silver or lighter blue one.

Same exterior and interior combo as mine :) Dont see many with the Linen carpet.

Looks lovely, enjoy!!!

Chris

If its whats important for you then you must go with your instinct.

For me when supply is so constrained, colour has to come second to condition, history and the price. I would have preferred silver, black, midnight or grey to red but I'm not that bothered, its the experience I'm into and I think they look good in most colours.

Good luck with the hunt.

Thanks Chris:)

I'm sure you know this but black is not easy - sure they look stunning when fresh but maintaing black paint is a real nightmare, specifically because 964s that didn't take the metallic paint option didn't come with clear coat...

A black car without clear coat is a recipe for bad paint, scratches, micro swirls, dull spots show up like you wouldn't believe ...I'm black non metallic and I'm having a respray with clear coat.

A lot of people don't buy black cars twice.

Another thing worth contemplating in applying a clear vinyl wrap over the paint... sure you can't polish it but it'll stay gorgeous!

Having said that the 1st thing above colour is the mechanicals, in an ideal world mine would have been Midnight Blue or Forest Green metallic. Actually black is soooooooooo beautiful!

Thanks

I'm going to look at the RPM ones tomorrow so will report back. I'm not too fussed about the paintwork immediately as over the years I've budgeted for engine overhauls and an eventual complete respray.

I know wht you mean about restricted supply etc but the amazon green just doesnt do it for me. The search continues and am definitely looking forward to finding the right one

Just put up - no affiliation...

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3619612.htm

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3320053.htm

A very tidy C2 in Guards with engine rebuild - I saw this one in the metal recently, looked promising and a Baltic Blue with 28,000miles, one owner:
http://www.eporsch.co.uk/

Its all really useful information. I'm glad I stumbled across this forum.

Sorry for hijacking this thread though!

Not at all the - the point was to help buyers find potential cars!

Looks like Eporsh are now pricing 964s higher than 993s. How the worm has turned! :D

I give it 5 years and the price of coupe 964s will rocket - in my totally unprofessional opinion :)

I remember just a little while back a very tidy 964 was £16,000 now they're around £20,000, no?

Looks like a really winner.... KWV3, Top end rebuild.... if it all checks out could be a good one at a good price... poor pics though...

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/...1-porsche-911/

Enquiry sent! Thanks

Went to see the two at RPM the other day. Of the two the cobalt blue was the more preferable one but needs bodywork and engine rebuild doing. The black one had the RS clutch which was a bit too full on for my liking. Might see what I can sort out although the blue is still a possibility.

i paid just under £16k for my manual C2 coupe from eporsch about 20mths ago.....so prices do seem to have increased a bit. Due to OCD i have spent a stackload more on it and given its leaking like the exxon valdez currently i see a top end being needed early 2013..actually already got it provisionally booked with redtek. Great cars though.... ;)

loving the midnight blue examples that Frank posted.

The blue car seemed the better of the two when I enquired, however it is going to need a wedge spending & when you add that on you are over 20k & into near concours 964's

PM sent

I think it's OK now to confirm that you are both right! :D

I had the pleasure of helping Oldtimer pick up the orange car and I got to drive it the 90 or so miles home. With 315 bhp, a competition clutch and weighing in at less then 1200 Kg, it's an absolute beast to drive! :evilgrin: It made my own nicely fettled car seem tame in comparison.

He's not on our Spa trip but those going to the RS day at Oulton park in March, Castle Combe in May and Donington in July will get to see it. :bigbye:

Guy's,
Have my Midnight Blue 964 for sale, everything has been done to bring the car upto 'as new' standard.

http://www.gtclassics.co.uk/gtcsales/car9b.htm

PS the J---UNC Reg does not reflect the car.:roflmao:

Wow, if my numbers come up on Friday I know where I'll be on Saturday...and it won't be taking my car to 9M as planned!!

How come? Any planned replacement?

+964RS

Thanks, I look at that advert and think don't sell it. But 6 years on and 4k miles is bad!

If it's a sale purely due to low miles, why not sleep on it until the economy picks up? Give it 5 years? Mind you that's a long wait...

Here is another that looks real tidy - if it all checks out, great price...!

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3655823.htm

That actually looks pretty good. I know a lot will be scared off by the mileage but as we all know mileage is not an issue provided its had key work done.

The Advert itself is a bit poor but there are some good details such as the Engine and gearbox rebuild and then some nice things like Becker unit, alloy handbrake and gearkonb. Not a fan of the light interior but that can be easily changed to black. Some new wheels and drop it an inch or 2 and it could be a mean looking 964 for under 15k.

C2 Manual

Looks like it could be worth checking out (before the trade snap it up)

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...490be4c5769a83

Yeah I agree, pics are bad low res. I'd want to see evidence of a reputable specialist having done the rebuild and extensive history. When somethings that good value, makes you wonder...

The paint sure looks good - what colour is that? It doesn't look like Cobalt to me...

Although the description is not the kind that would have been written by an enthusiast - especially "electric rear windows" ! Also it's really cheap - I'd be so concerned at that price or perhaps this non enthusiast doesn't know what he's got... sure would explain why he's got it listed on AutoTrader.

Colour is Tahoe blue I believe.

I dont think the advertised price means much, the Forest Green C2 that Eporsch sold a few months ago, I was offered that car at 11k and they flipped it out for 17k.

Was location that put me off going to check it out, car was in Scotland before eporch bought it.

Plenty of people looking for projects, I'll take a bet that the blue C2 will go very quick at that price. Even though I agree the ad stinks! :roflmao:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3826528.htm

Would've loved to have taken ownership of this one!

Wow great spec this one! I'd love a set of gold wheels!

:D I would take ANY and ALL of them.

I do a bit of work for Pete down at Tognola and have seen this car a few times and its yummy.......:D

Barty, I'm also hoping for a Lotto win this weekend... I'll be in touch on Monday ;)

Beautiful car, good luck with the sale. Will you cope with just two RS's in your fold?

Whilst stuck in a windowless editing suite waiting for rendering to complete, I thought it would be nice to post up some more cars for potential buyers (2 sales resulted from the last bunch posted) and for conversations sake.

No affiliation with any of the cars listed. All these cars could be candidates subject to due diligence - informed purchase.

TRACK CARS

Slate Grey - £ 28,500 - Track Car
Race prepped, German, LHD with cage, suspension, seats, rebuilt 3000kms ago, upgraded rear brakes.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3695896.htm

Slate Grey - £ 15,500 - Track Car
C2 Manual...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3732517.htm

As posted above the one we'd all like to buy?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3826528.htm

THE PROJECTS

Rare Cobalt Blue - £ 11,495 - Project Car?
Cat C repaired, C4, what condition is the engine in??? Could be a good project.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3826735.htm

Slate grey - £ 9,995 - Wild card
C2, Tip, Engine rebuilt by JZM 25k miles ago, suspect at such a cheap price - cosmetics?
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3779763.htm

Grey - £ 11,750 - Cheap
Respray, top end, bad points listed.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3777785.htm

Black - £16,950 - Rebuilt
Still for sale, C4, engine rebuilt by RPM 6,000 miles ago, paintwork needs sorting...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3592898.htm

THE SORTED ONES

Red - £ 14,995 - Sorted C4
Autofarm rebuild 10K miles ago, brakes & drive shaft gaiters sorted recently, 292bhp. If it checks out could be very well priced...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3832675.htm

Midnight Blue - £ 19,950 - Sorted Tip
Tip, C2, Rare colour, respray, engine rebuild, interior refurb.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3805603.htm

Black - £19,995 - Sorted Tip
Tip, C2, respray, engine rebuild.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3579077.htm

LOW MILLAGE

GP White - £ 24,995 - Low Millage
45,000 miles, Philip Raby car, mint inside and out...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3825093.htm

Marine Blue - £ 18,995 - Low Millage
Low milage, nice mods.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3693985.htm

The Cobalt car is a potential bargain (dependant on the state of the engine)

Cat C, but the damage was very minimal, and I have no idea whay it was written off for such a minor amount of damage.

Frank - Have you considered buying one of these with a rebuilt engine, swapping that into yours and then selling the other as a parts car? I'm not saying anyone should do this to a good 964, but it might make it financially easier for you to keep yours?

There was a black C2 (in Worcestershire) that went up for sale on PH for £10,800 two weeks ago. It sold within hours of being advertised.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3789315.htm

Beware gold split rims!

Could you expand on this any more?

Was looking to get a set eventually for my one

In joke :)

Grant had some rather charcter building times at Spa with his (gold) split rims not holding air

Sorry for any concern...as Gary says it's an in-joke.

I rebuilt my split rims before our recent Spa trip and despite several spirited drives they held air...we drove all the way to Spa and even before I'd turned a wheel on track they fronts took it in turn to fail along the seal!!!!

They will be stripped and rebuilt soon.....but not for track duty!

It does suggest you should always be clear and confident if you;re buying second hand split rims and there's the hint of a suggestion that they've been rebuilt......preferably not by me!!!!:D

Ah makes sense :)

Would really like a set of BBS LM wheels with gold centres down the line. I've seen some Fuch ones from JZM that I'm also interested in sticking on the car. For the time being though I'm refurbing the current cup wheels until budgets allow. Concentrting on bodywork and mechanicals first

Prices seem really related to how much money would have to be spent on the car to make it right. Or in other words it's nice to see that money spent on these cars really has residual value.

Could we be nearing a point where there's money to be made from restoring a non perfect 964?

The price of those Tips are eye watering and yet seem correct in comparison with the higher price of similar condition manuals.

Have to say, all of a sudden there has been a lot of activity on here from UK Rennlisters undertaking big jobs not just servicing....

Yeah the price looks very appetising.

In that case I would buy a second hand engine from a breakers yard, but it would be a shame to mismatch numbers and take a gamble on yet another engine...

Amazed at how quickly that one sold also!

:roflmao::roflmao:

BBS LM.....yum!

Cups look great, especially when refurb'd......

mechanicals 1st, then bodywork.....!?

Pics of car?

Oh, soz to Frank for hijack of thread.

Cheeksyboy This is one thread which contains a link to my other thread
https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...ggestions.html

Nice, love that colour on a 964.......

Seeing as I allowed a digression, how's about this example to bring it back on track.....

....

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3661224.htm

It's never easy moving a car on, will give it another month or two and see if it sells. If I'm honest I hope it doesn't sell.

Mind you have been looking at the black C2 with gold wheels this week, what a nice car. V tempted

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3842793.htm

How about this one?

OMG - WOW!

2,800 miles - it's a sleeper. The black & gold wheeled one - thrash it, mod it, love it....

1 of 16? Quite a car though.

Refers to the number of RHD UK 964RS Rob.

What a shame...that car needs to be abused at Spa, 'Ring, Zandvoort......not kept in a garage.

Am I alone in thinking this is a travesty?

And as for the price!

Steve, I thought there were far more lwt cars, touring model being very rare? Fabulous guards RS in U11 this week, did you see it?

Never really understood the car 'collector'

Yes its nice if you have the money to own some great cars, but what is the point if you dont actually drive them?

No I didn't mate...mine hasn't been in there for a few weeks...which makes a nice change! :D

I seem to recall there were the following UK manufactured RHD cars; 42x rhd lwt, 7x touring and 3x 3.8 wide body rhd cars manufactured.

There were also ROW RHD RS's manufactured.

Hmm.....in that case, I too am not sure what they're going on about when they say it's one of only sixsteen UK supplied cars. Especially since the bonnet sticker looks more like C18 (Japan) rather than C16 (UK). :confused:

Initially it looks like c16 put I've blown it up and am not so sure now. Either wy, it should be driven and not garaged. It's like having a supermodel wife and locking her away only to be wheeled out at functions and parties

72 RHD Basic and 11 RHD Touring according to this site, still a fine car but sad it has not really been used.
http://www.performance2and4.co.uk/964rs_1_n.htm

as a side note - looks like the blue cat c car that was up at 11495 no offers has an agreed offer at 10k subject to inspection and leakdown....bit of a bargain really.....especially if just after a trackwarrior. I was tempted myself. The colour is fab.

That would have been me!
I hope the deal goes through, the car is not quite as perfect as he said but if the inspection checks out I still think it is worth going for. :burnout:

well done mate - nice negotiating. Agree - if it checks out it looks a nice car. Though i do wish people would be more honest about cars in ads but hey i guess thats part of "the game" .........

Nice, well done! Don't forget to feed us the pics :bigbye:

Agreed, there was a difference on Rhd UK spec and RHD (UK plus rest of the world RHD cars).

The car advertised is one of UK spec cars.
I think the site is quoting world sales of all RHD Cars. UK, HONG KONG, JAPAN etc.

According to other sites the car advertised is a Japanese spec, hence the 1 of 16. Case closed!

Jay, who had the work done, bought it to Curborough a couple of years ago. Lovely car and well worth the money IMO.

The RHD Midnight Blue RS has allegedly sold over the weekend to a guy in Singapore.:bigbye:

Here's another one that's just popped up.

Looks tidy, with an engine rebuild....

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3849527.htm

What about this one....already on the road to being a track rat....

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2467780.htm

Unless he has a house in the UK, he won't have much use for it. We can only import cars older than 35 years as a classic.

Excelant thread, keep them coming, I'm in the market for a nice c2 coupe, can't afford those rs ones though lol

Pg 5 should supply you with good leads...

Another great example - Rennlist member owner with full engine rebuild in 2010...

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3855057.htm

No affiliation.

I've wondered what those seats would look like in a 964, pretty good I think. Difficult to se the overall effect with standard Linen carpet and door panels though

They are far cheaper than PP/SPG from D911 I believe

Car itself loos nice and obviously has a very good engine, but 20k for a LHD car thats more or less standard spec in the UK is a lot to my mind

Whether they actually sell for this is another matter, but I've seen standard cars advertised in France and Italy ranging from around 20K€ up to 38K€, so I think £20K is probably realistic for a LHD car that's also just had a full rebuild. The question will be though if it's any better than the large number of LHD cars already on the continent!

Purchased today by my good friend, can't wait for a drive:rockon:

I normally get bored with road cars very quickly and rarely have kept the same one foe more than a year in the thirty years I've been driving. But I've had my 964 for seven years now and I've been thinking for a while that it was time to change. I put my car on Pistonheads last week (As you saw, Frank posted it here). I've looked all over at loads of different cars to go with in my budget from Cayman S, Vx220 Turbo, Z4M Coupe, early 997 C4S amongst them. Ultimately there was something missing from all of them.
I had three interested parties and two viewings booked for this weekend when in a moment of clarity on Fri evening I suddenly felt a wrench of fear in my gut and sent some mails out to cancel everything - including the ad. What was I thinking! I can't sell my 964. So, I won't be going anywhere for a while....

Alex

As always no affiliation, just keeping the thread alive for buyers.

THE CHEAPER 3.6 TURBO
These cars are sooo expensive now days - here's a cheap one. Why? Well it's had accident damage... interesting how there are no pictures of the repair. I'd tread carefully! Is it overpriced? Funny how the gents name is 'Salvo' sounds like a coincidental pun on salvage!
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3865307.htm

THE DIRT CHEAP TARGA
Great colour, why so cheap? Because it's a tip? It's had a top end rebuild, presumably by Chelsea Carrera (IIRC by a 911uk member who's building an RS track car). Looks tidy, interior too - although the driver's bolster isn't in shot....
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3869051.htm

THE TIDY TARGA
Bodywork looks very nice as does the interior. No engine rebuild detailed - then again it's only done 70,000 odd miles...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3871239.htm

THE BONE DRY CAB
Big proclamations by Portiacraft...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3453650.htm


Hi Alex,

The reason I found Rennlist was because of you - you directed me here through a message I sent you following a youtube video you had done. Just wanted to say thanks - great forum.

Glad you came to your senses - there's just no substitute. Have to admit I almost lost my senses too recently due to engine troubles.

A friend of mine, Tom had a Cayman, then a Z4 then I convinced him to buy a 964 - he never ever looks back.

Euro RS at auction, scroll down about 12 cars

http://www.angliacarauctions.co.uk/c...-june-2nd.aspx

http://www.angliacarauctions.co.uk/m...9154/911rs.jpg


John

Good choice. Let us know what you and your friend think. :thumbup:

+964!

This looks a tidy C4:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3851159.htm

...but I think he could be waiting a while for it to fund that 360 he's after :p

It's gotta be worth it, it's a unique example......it's front wheel drive!

"PistonHeads Essentials
•Rear-Engined
•Naturally Aspirated
•3.6 Litres
•6 Cylinders
•250 BHP
•Front-Wheel-Drive
•7 Previous Owners
The Detail
•1989
•2 Doors
•Coupe
•Manual
•Petrol
•White"

One on here at auction this Saturday.

Black C2 Manual. 128K miles. 5 owners. Guide about 10-12k.

If you scroll down will see photo

http://www.eama-norwich.co.uk/classi...on-lid144.html

The Honda 550F got my attention out of that lot and bought back happy memories! :)

So hard to just pick ONE...!!!!

love that Singer Chamois

Never had an Imp but always lusted after a Sunbeam Stiletto

At least they're rear engined :)

http://beta.pistonheads.com/classifi...-manual/423007

No affiliations - Sorted inside and out

Just saw that on PH, looks absolutely stunning

I'm sure it's very tidy, but the pictures are really the stand out/ professional. Based on the pics alone It'll generate a lot of interest.

Interesting colour http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1990-PORSC...ht_1243wt_1398

OMG - I just fell in love. I'd buy this one in a heart beat! What do we estimate - 350 hp?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3887702.htm

Spotted already! WOW!

Looks a nice car, I tested a supercharged 993RS which had over 400 bhp claimed. It would have been suicidal to drive in the wet, to much power!
Looks a very tidy 964 in the pics,interested to know if this is a bit of a handful for the road!

Looks nice! Much cheaper power than a 3.8 rebuild Frank. What decision have you made btw?

Belongs to a nice fella called Steve (Chameleon41 on Rennlist). There's a couple of pics of the car on track at Oulton in this thread:

https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...leaseeeee.html

So the car is quite tractable then?

AFAIK the only experience Steve has of tracking is in this car and I don't think he's done many days on track in it but said he really enjoyed how it went round Oulton.

On a similar note I've been round Oulton in a 9M supercharged 968 and that seemed to perform just the same as NA 968 but a bit quicker on the straights.

Guards Red C4 with KWV3, and RS interior... I remember this one being available when I was looking for my car, IIRC it's owned by a Rennlister.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3896459.htm

how could u resist that colour combo mate?? ;)

Great thread. I'm interested in 964s at auction. What did the one in Norfolk reach?

Update 22nd May
 

CHEAP C4 Coupe - £11,750
Top end rebuild, recent respray, dual exhaust, listed bad points.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3777785.htm

LOW MILER C2 Coupe - £18,500
3 Owners from new, good paint and interior, Dublin.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3923538.htm

EXPENSIVE C4 Coupe - £27,995
2 Owners from new, 58k miles, top end by OPC.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3914056.htm

IMMACULATE C2 Cab - £19,995
36K miles....
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3166677.htm

TIP C2 Coupe- £14,995
Body/ interior looks good, milage is high and price is attractive - what's the engine like???
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3901681.htm

EBAY C4 Coupe - £14,500
4days left, Speedline reps, Bilstein HD sports, body/ interior looks stunning, engine?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PORSCHE-91...#ht_658wt_1398

EBAY C2 Coupe tip - £14,750
Rare Midnight blue, new rotors & pads, also comes with Design90s...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-91...#ht_500wt_1413

EBAY CHEAP C4 - £12,995
Suspension recently done, bottom end rebuild (more details needed bit vague), 12 previous owners....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1991-PORSC...ht_1270wt_1398

EPORSCH C2 Coupe - £21,995
Undergoing top end, good paint/ interior, 56K, I remember someone being dubious of this one. If IIRC Roly uses a 'guy in a shed' to do his mechanical work - I'd be very careful regarding the rebuild.

THE WILD CARD - £14,995
450hp turbo, 1972...
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C305185#

THE DREAM - £167,000
Turbo S lightweight....
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C271749

[QUOTE=Porsche964FP;9550345]CHEAP C4 Coupe - £11,750
Top end rebuild, recent respray, dual exhaust, listed bad points.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3777785.htm

HAS BEEN ON FOR A WHILE, THINK I SPOKE TO HIM WHEN I WAS LOOKING AND WHEN ASKED HE MENTIONED A COUPLE OF RUST BUBBLES? NOT 100% SURE THOUGH


EBAY C2 Coupe tip - £14,750
Rare Midnight blue, new rotors & pads, also comes with Design90s...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-91...#ht_500wt_1413

ALSO BEEN ON FOR AGES,COUPLE OF MONTHS AT LEAST, SOUNDS GOOD SO WHAT IS WRONG WITH IT, WHY NOT SELLING?

From the ad....."well known in the Porsche club"

I must try harder because it's not known to me! :roflmao:

Beautiful midnight blue RS for sale:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3914430.htm

If it's the one I think it is that last changed hands in 2010.....it's gone up by £30K in less than 2 years ;)

great thread for us looking to buy. The black ebay looks a beaut.

Is that Midnight Blue Steve? My car is MB and looks a lot darker than that (you actually commented at Curborough that you thought it was black).

Maybe the blue tint is magnified under the artificial lights?

Update
 

C2 Guards Red - £22,750
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3954553.htm
69,000 miles, sold by RPM, 3 owners, sport seats, cup 1s, aero mirrors, leak/ compression test pending...

C4 GP White - £25,000
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3825093.htm
45,000 miles, Phil Raby sold, full history, new suspension 2011, various brake & oil pipes replaced, clutch at 31K, blue leather, period radio, nice and original.

C2 Guards Track Car - £20,995
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3943022.htm
Recaros, RS carpet, full roll cage, perspex rear window, RS disks & callipers, Bilstein PSS9 coil-overs, AutoFarm rebuild (reservations held), last service 1k miles ago, front indicators yellowing, rear reflector pinking at edges, retained stereo, electric windows, six point harness, helmet intercom, RS badged.

C2 Slate Grey - £19,000
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3937020.htm
Dublin car, 87,000 miles, rebuild at 72,500, serviced last month, detailed classified, recent Bilstein HDs with H&R reds, 17" 996 wheels, strut brace, swirls, light scuff on bumper to be addressed pre sale, gear knob and bolster scuff, Porsche Club Ireland forum documented. This one really seems an honest, thorough car.

Zermatt Silver C4 "RS Spec" - £15,000
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3942883.htm
80,000 miles, sport seats, battery cut off switch, recent full respray, TechArt fog/ ducts, rear window spoiler, sport seats, lacks pictures, lowered - what springs? Sport exhaust - details? Race clutch - details? Movie feature? Sold for a friend... lady owner who RS'd her car at cost of £20,000... sounds like my kind lady :rolleyes: :)

Work carried out by Charles Ivey - I have reservations about these guys. Over priced and misdiagnosed a simple past problem 3 times...

Worked on by No.5 Garage - I also have my reservations about these guys... they tried to muscle serious money from me for a starter motor and labour....

Having said that heard good things about Langley Autocraft re paint.

C4 Diamond Blue Metallic - £28,000
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3914056.htm
58,000 miles, sport seats, 2 owners, new clutch flywheel, top end @ 32K by Porsche Lancaster, Porsche Club car. It better be mint at that price!


I'd take the Guards track car and Irish one!

seems targas are demanding premiums these days................

1. C4 targa was up at 911virgin for maybe 48hrs at strong money...sold...

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3954306.htm

2. Targa at a ferrari specialist....+£26k spent..46k miles.....nice rims! asking £29k!!!!!!!!......

http://www.foskers.com/ferrari-sales...-911-targa-3-6

3. Nice C2 targa in the best colour........ pretty sure its a PCGB members car and quite tidy...seems a reasonable price as well

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/3947580.htm

WOW Great looking Targa that! Love the wheels!!!

I feel a project coming on. Nothing defined but if somebody knows of a 64 manual coupe with a blown / poor engine, rust etc. please drop me a PM.

Yes Ben it's definitely MB, the lighting in the pics just makes it look a 'brighter' blue than yours.

Hmmm... when you click on the link it says the ads been rejected by Pistonheads http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3914430.htm

Having previously owned a targa, I'd have to say that's one of, if not the best, I've ever seen. However, I think the owner's gone too far with the RS look, ie, bumper (looks good), door cards, buckets, roll cage, etc. It's a C4 to start with, so heavier, and targas are heavier than coupes too, so why waste the big advantage of a targa (apart from the fresh air), the increased rear room? BBS wheels always look good on 964's, but again, 18's may not be the best choice for a targa, with its less stiff chassis?
I hope it sells, as something that looks as good deserves too, but I think appeals to a very limited market.

mr pg - personally i agree and would take the nice clean c2 targa i posted at 14k in preference. Each to their own though

Looks like they have replace the ad with this one:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3948704.htm

probably some sort of glitch with the original because you would think anything being sold by JZM is the real deal.

I bought he blue low mileage one on page five.

Bought from Shirley's garage without an mot for 16k, it was listed for 18,995.

Stunning car, will post pictures after a few mods.

Was that the marine blue one? My targa was marine, and looked great. Seemed to change colour depending on the light conditions.

If it is the Marine Blue one, it looks like the twin of mine :thumbup:

My old 964 has just popped up...

It says it's had an engine rebuild... errr I don't remember that being in the records... it desperately needed one when I sold it on - twas a sieve!

Pictures really don't show it's condition... unless it's been refurbed - the interior was a mess and the bumpers were awful...

Not sure about the asking price... http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3974897.htm

OMG, a red one....thank goodness you saw the light ;) (awaiting rebuff from BU!!!!)

i cant believe after experiencing GR he went for any other colour ;)

Car looks great from the pics... seems well priced... but then again your knowledge speaks volumes.. why did you sell it?

Because I bought a lemon - I knew it from the start but was too eager to get in a Porsche.

It blew blue smoke, leaked like a seive but I loved it.

Then the leaks became extreme - the interior was shoddy amongst other things.

All in all it made sense to spend money on a more sorted one... which hasn't materialised as my replacement 964 has been through a tad of a transformation !

There are many of us here who wish we'd had more guidance at the time of purchase - I'm a case and point.

Finding this forum and researching it is a serious gift pre purchase.

So update so far, installed new HID kit, installed new bonnet and boot shocks, installed new window rubbers, seat piping replaced on drivers side, new lights for indicators (clear white), bought the rs style brake scoops, Decat pipe (not yet fitted), distributor mod but haven't done that yet as not 100% sure what I've to do.

I've started to look for wheels too, I recon I will go for the ap design split rim style wheels unless anyone has any comment about better sets or indeed 18" wheels and handling.

Apart from that I'm just driving it, everyday to and From work. It's good must admit.

Oh need a new steering wheel if anyone has any mono kit lying around.

I've seen the black RPM one (was there visiting new premises), and would agree the bodywork does need tidying.http://www.ataz.info/ht3.jpghttp://www.ataz.info/jh88.jpghttp://www.ataz.info/dh3.jpg

Sorry if this one has been on before...

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3992305.htm

Seems too good to be true for price /mileage.. hate the front chin spolier and generally something looks off.

Sold already

Not surprising at that price. Looked very nice :)

Comes with upside down steering wheel especially for Ozzies :p

By the way, just read your blog. Awesome! Really useful historical write up of your work to the 964, very useful. Thanks...

Cheers Jack. It's a bit out of date at the moment so need to do some work on it. :biggulp:

Super cheap..
 

Seems very, very cheap if a s dedscribed.... even if it is a Carrera 4 Targa with no mention of an engine rebuild.....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISA...m=251096228798

Reservations about 19 inch wheels on stretched rubber, probably not very good for the 4WD. 285 BHP wow I'd love to see the rolling road read out and know who remapped it...

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3995735.htm

Three tidy looking C2s...
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3954553.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4032358.htm
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3983409.htm

I like the turquoise one :)

C2 Guards big resto - respray & full rebuild. £ 22,000
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4069880.htm

C2 Turquoise metalic - nothing mentioned re engine. £ 17,000
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4067284.htm

C4 Guards - looks tidy inside & out. £ 16,000
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4056894.htm

C2 GP White - documented history. £ 14,000
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4054402.htm

Mate the torquoise I am sure was a private sale on ph that went in about 24 hrs as was on for about £13k. So not a bad little profit in that for the dealer now

Surely this car is underpriced!?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4102084.htm

yeah saw that too......very tempting given the 3.8ltr engine which is brand spankers........very nice

Underpriced? Its 1k more than the red car at Malton which has a full refresh and an engine rebuild. The black car looks nice but a fresh engine doesn't necessarily mean the whole car is nice.

I'd say well under priced because its only 1k more than the resto red! The spec list reads great for the black car: 3.8 rebuild, cams, RS stuff, carbon yep yep.

I have a couple of friends who know the vendor Hannah well. They both say the car is a good 'un and should be snapped up if it is what you are after. As mentioned in the ad she inherited the car from her father and is only around 20 years old so can't manage to hang onto it as she'll never conceivably manage to insure and run it. There are bills for £30,000 on the engine and other works.

The car may be nice but RS bits & carbon is a personal preference. Likewise the cams and 3.8 rebuild, it may make a good track car but not such a nice road car. Its easy to get seduced by the 3.8 moniker but the reality is there are far more important things than an extra 150cc when buying a 964, especially at that money form a private buyer.

How about a £ 35,000 Targa C4!?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1990-PORSC...380450143342?p t=Automobiles_UK&hash=item5894987c6e#ht_1078wt_1413

RAS_62 - its your personal preferance that is causing you to not see the amazing value of the black car. The spec list reads epic. This will sell quick, the red one - who knows?

The black car looks interesting but there's no mention of anything having been done to the suspension. It looks like it's been lowered a bit but I'd want to know what has been used to achieve that. A £20K+ 964 coupe needs a good body, fresh suspension and rebuilt engine to tick all the boxes IMHO.

p.s. I don't like the look of those seats! :icon107:

LOL hardly my personal preference, rather just common sense. The car has a lightweight interior and a new engine. I dont know what was done to the engine as it is not detailed. As Steve said above there are plenty of other things that are not mentioned and this is exactly my point at this price.
It may be a superb car but I am not one to get excited about a few headline comments.:cheers:

Not keen either but each to their own. Maybe its me but the red car is well priced, the black one underpriced. I cant imagine anyone who shells out for a 3.8 will cut back elsewhere, and those certainly werent cheap either...a real enthusiasts car.

To elaborate...low 20s is what good standard cars go for, mid 20s for full RS clones. There is a seperate market for the special ones....lees NGT recreation, Jasmines Celebration, the PS cars this hot rod etc. These go for £30k+...fact. That engine, those seats...i bet it all adds up to make it a special. Maybe its just me, but that is a bargain...

You may indeed be correct though I feel it is better not to jump to conclusions. What suspension does it have, what is the paint/body like, any repairs? Oil lines, radiator, tinware, brakes condition. What exactly is new inside the engine verified on a receipt, what spec is the cam, does it have a new clutch and a lwt flywheel, is the lsd serviceable?
Surely anyone building a 3.8 engine would not scrimp on such things...or would they? I dont know, hence my comment about jumping to conclusions.
20k for a good car with fresh engine and suspension but you can but a car for less.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4093877.htm

Crikey! That's Tom Miller's car....what's going on Tom?!!!! :confused::eek:

Hmmmm...I'm guilty as charged...these cars execite me. I must learn to be more sceptical and pragmatic ;-)

Not sure what Tom is thinking there. Does he not realise he can't just up sticks and leave the London 964 club??? Lol!! Glws though mate. It's cheap for a straight c2

I am gutted to be selling but it turns out I live way beyond my means!! As for the good price apparently not! I was offered a tasty £11,000 for it as part exchange but it seemed rediculously cheap! It is a great car and would be a real shame to let it go for anything less than £12,500. If anyone has any ideas as to where to put it up for sale they would be greatly appreciated!
Tom

P.s. Obviously when I win the Euromillions tomorrow night (Go and buy a ticket, it is at £120m!) then I will buy something fast enough to beat Boxsey, like a spaceship

Sorry to hear that Tom, though I can certaionly appreciate the living beyond ones means !

Thats seems a very good price for your car, someone will get a good deal

how about a bit of rubystone..........hmmm........lush.........

http://www.rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/st...-964-rs-coupe/

http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/s...11-796x597.jpg

Now that is properly nice

Eighty bags nice!

how about a 6k miler for 140 bags!!! .......964RS supposedly doubling in value every 6 years...be interesting to see if it continues.......cant see anyone being able to drive this one if they want to retain its value though which would be a shame.

http://williamianson.com/cars-for-sa...ails.php?id=36

Exactly - wish I'd had 25 bags available a few years ago!

Sorry to hear it's got to go Tom. I think you've already advertised it on the best place and I would be very surprised if it doesn't go quickly at that price.

Sold mine for less than that maybe 13 yeas ago, bummer:banghead:

:biggulp: WOW that is stunning!

That RS looks great but that price buys a perfect 996GT3 RS & a lovely 964 C2. Just a thought.

Does anyone really get £20k+ for even very good 964's? The ones I have seen seem to hang around quite a while at that price and you never know how much they actually go for... My car with new Bilstein suspension, good engine rebuild, new clutch, all new brakes and bodywork re-fresh all in the last 10,000 miles with no previous accident damage and full Porsche history and lots of options including working AC must be a 'good un' but I think I would struggle to get north of £20k?? Not that I am selling, at the moment anyway.........!

i think the really good cars seem to go quickly at the 17-19k range with very similar work to your car Stan even better if its a C2 manual coupe as that seems to the one that is really in demand. Anything +20k would have to be seriously mint to shift or mint with some dealer back up.

+964 in my mind.

this looks pretty clean for £14995............not to mention in the fastest colour as well ;)

http://www.rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/st...rrera-4-coupe/

The red car at Malton is now reduced to 19995.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4069880.htm

Oooo that looks like a beauty.

Here's another one with an interesting description http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4118160.htm

this could be a cracker as well......

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4118241.htm

another rubystone rs......given only 5 made means 60% of the market for sale at same time.

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4117686.htm

sooooo nice

:biggulp:

Interesting article http://www.total911.com/news/nows-th...-to-buy-a-964/

Yeah nice article....interesting read on the 64RS by John B as well mentioning his ride in Kevins yellow RS and whether he would buy one himself or not

that C4 at JZM above.....asking is +£28k .......crikey

I'm not opening the link, but obviously the car is Stone Grey :)

Sounds like it will be nice (and one of my favourite colours) but a couple of add things

Top end, nearly 9k?? sounds very dear

Full bare metal restoration, less than 6k, sounds very cheap

:roflmao:

Agreed 9k for a top end! For that kind of money you should get a full rebuild from my findings! Agreed again, 6k for bare metal - sounds seriously cheap.

That car belongs to Ajesphe/ Adam... https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...estions-5.html He confirms it's his and selling. So sad after such short ownership and so much work on it. I hope they get the £ 28K asked - good sign for 964 prices...?

C4 RS'd with Top end £ 16K
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4152876.htm

Interested in your view of what this is worth?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-91...#ht_500wt_1203

given the white one above is only £1k more.......to me it seems overpriced......and it has lost service history....it is guards red though....so insert massive premium! ;)

ps: is anyone else annoyed at the spelling mistakes in the ad? ............"privious".......please.............

+1 ...especially on the 'spellong' ;) :typing:

the rust may be more than skin deep!

+964

There's a C2 that has just gone up for sale on he PCGB forum. No pictures but here are the details if anyone is looking:

Standard 1990 Porsche 964 C2

Colour: White
Interior: Unmarked black leather seats and dark blue carpet. Non-smoker.
E/W and PAS.
5 speed manual.
Full service history with stamps inside the booklet and invoices.
Full MOT history from 1993 to 2012/13 with original certificates in folder.
74,000 Miles
Mint condition (showroom) with no rust anywhere on the car.
Garaged.
New battery fitted last year.
I am the 4th owner for the last 7 years with 3 previous owners before me.
New clutch fitted at around 5k miles ago at JZM Porsche specialist and I have the invoice.
Private plate '911' will be included in the sale.
Long MOT with no advisory.
Clifford Alarm and Immobiliser

£18,500
Hemel Hempstead, Herts.

a couple of big money 964's coming onto the market ............ though the first one.....i think i would have spent my £48k and used that to buy a real 964RS.....each to their own though. I guess value is subjective but at £39k+ I think i would just find another £5k for the mint yellow 996GT3 Mk II with 14k miles........anyway....interesting times.

http://www.rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/st...diously-built/

http://www.rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/st...go-into-build/

:corn:

A C4 at £ 27K http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3914056.htm

Celebration wise body... with accident repair? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Porsche-91...ht_1093wt_1413

This looks a decent C2 at a reasonable price

http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-m...oupe/109095181

Looks very good value.

Here's a tidy turbo http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1992-PORSC...ht_1378wt_1413

I'll bet they'll want a few pennies for this low miler:

http://www.dicklovett.co.uk/Dealers/...-18537899.html

Not often you see a 964 for sale at an OPC...... pity they got the engine displacement wrong! :D

be surprised if it isnt around the £40-50k mark with that mileage and being sold by DL............

Called up, they're looking for ...................................................... £39,950!!!!!!!! :corn:

Seems like a pretty exceptional car but surely an asking price of £30 k would be nearer the mark?

Nice work Jack.....and BU for being on the money!! :D

Given SCOM just sold a very similar car fully restored but with higher mileage for £19995 that asking price is pretty sharp

Here's an interesting one...

http://mobile.pistonheads.com/;s=HmBjhtswNm6biC7GldyvlQ07/sales/4201754.htm

Selling after all? :(

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4201754.htm

Car belongs to Alex/ Seight...

Blimey that looks a cracker, 10k spent in 2010! Clutch done etc.

I know LHD cars now go for more than RHD, but I wonder if that extends to a C4 or is just C2s, may just be a bit difficult at resale - still good value I think.

£10,500 - with JZ rebuild... looks a great project car. Nice plate too!

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/4202365.htm

A curate's egg, +engine -bodywork

"Some blisters behind passenger door and on passenger front wheel arch." - They are hard to see but look pretty extensive in the pics - so rear quarter probably needed.

Think I'd haggle for 9k and put 4k into the body and whatever comes up and you have a car which should get 13k, the mileage is always going to limit it I think.

Strasse has an RS recreation on for £30k+

http://www.strasse.co.uk/cars.asp?car_id=137&page=2

Andrew,

Fame at last... :)


Gary

Wow great looking car!

Nice spot there Gary!! haha

£13,995 - 105K miles

MAF, Cup suspension, RS'd interior, no rebuild

"2 Door Coupe

3600cc Petrol Manual

Porsche 964 C4 Manual RS Inspired Taxed 28/2/13 Mot 20/2/13 Lots of Service History Last service 20/2/12 @ 105042 miles 14 stamps in the service book with lots of invioce's and old Mot's This 964 come's with 7"&10" X 18" Turbo Technology wheels painted black & fitted with Avon ZZR's all round FVD Motor Sport LB 11Race Kit, Air mass flow kit, Cat by pass, Carrera Cup front & back suspension, Lowered Springs Inside we have Light wieght carpets, RS door panels, Rear seat's deleted,( Rear belts remain at the moment ) Boxster Black leather seats with Alcantara inlays, RS type momo steering wheel Also come's with private plate TIA 596 The paint on the roof as faded a little but not too bad, it as had some paint in its life but it is 20 years old This is a very solid and fast car which drive's nice and tight and sounds fantastic Any questions just call always happy to talk PORSCHE"

What looks like a very very tidy and nicely modified (minus the RS badge) LHD 964 C4 - £19,000

I recon similar condition C2s to command £24k +

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...964-lhd/812113

That last 964 posted looks amazing.. this thread is very dangerous. i need to not look at it anymore. Frank you are a bad person.

lead me not into temptation and deliver me far away from pistonheads/autotrader/carandclassic/ebay.

I think it's under priced and would look at it myself if I needed another 964 and still lived in the UK!! Especially so, if they're original Speedlines as the ad says too...

A LHD track prepared C2 with a recent widebody conversion tentatively came up for sale last week. Owned for many years by Rennlist member Demonfish. I think it's already been snapped up but if anyone is looking for something they could try sending him a PM.

Before WB conversion:

https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...ello-yall.html

Part way through conversion a couple of years ago:

https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...llo-again.html

Where can we find more pictures!

I've not seen it since the WB conversion was finished. I'll give him a prod to see if he's got any to post up.

Definitely - sounds great. Just did some stalking, boy does he post infrequently! Where was it advertised?

He's been busy for the last few years setting up his business (tracktoys) which prepares cars for racing. The 964 has sat about a lot. We were talking about it at Donington last week....he said he doesn't get to use it these days so might aswell sell it....upon which another guy I know said straight away that he would buy it. So, no need to advertise it! :D

Here's an interesting one belonging to enthusiast and 964 website contributor John - to be sold by Phil Raby

http://www.findaporsche.com/porsche-...4-coming-soon/

I came across a C2 this morning that has just been bought and is now in my local indy for a bit of a refresh. The new owner picked it up cheaply from an OPC that took it as trade in for a newer model!:icon501:

Left Hooker
 

How about this... not cheap but seems a good one?

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...964-lhd/812113

Already posted...

I should have known you would have caught it already ;)

It's still for sale.... £19,995 what's it really worth chaps?

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...-c2-lhd/271618

Yep, that one seems to have been around for ages...the phrase 'dogs dinner' always springs to mind when I see it. :nono:

i think that looks really nice. IS it C2 or C4 do u know??

this im suprised hasnt sold but maybe the spec isnt right for some

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...mileage/574034

C2

Here's another nice one £17,500
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...-manual/823773

Wow that should be bought!!

Can't remember if this one's been posted. Not cheap!

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...reation/731644

32k and they cant even put proper RS door handles on it....

Looks lovely though

Blue one above now reduced to £15750 which sounds a potential bargain

actually its 15,750. I think its damn cheap for whats been done to it in maintenence

£32k? And it still has 2 pot rear calipers? It's a C2 with brake ducts, RS rear bumper, door cards and recaros.... Frank, your car must be worth £40k by that reckoning...?

some of these prices are ridiculous when there are genuine Porsche ltd edition cars out there for similar money like the 996 GT3 / 996 GT3 RS & GT2.....ok water cooled but most are around the 100 UK delivered number......rare.........

love the aircooled 964 but some of these "lookey likey's" are way too much money

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...al-1993/835620

much more sense buying this one i think personally

What are you complaining about! You have a C2 Coupe Manual. I think it's just due to them being such a visceral drive, yet 'modern', yet classic 911 shape.

PS. I hope you ain't flirting with a kettle?!

Midnight blue C2 Manual £16,000
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...al-1993/835620

Midnight blue C2 Tip £19,000 That's very, very expensive for a Tip...
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...ptronic/831678

Prices advertised seem to be:

* Around 17K for manual C2 Coupe - non rebuild, decent overall condition.
* Around 20K+ for manual C2 Coupe - rebuild, good condition.
* Around 30K+ for manual C2 Coupe - track prepared, with rebuild & pristine.

However:
The Cobat Blue C4 rebuilt by Ajestphe being sold by JZM at £ 28,900 is still for sale.
The GP White with decals track prepared C4 being sold by RPM that was selling for +30K has been retracted from sale by the owner.

haha.....yes i do like a whinge every now and then. I did think this kettle looked good value though ;)

http://www.used-porsche.co.uk/car_91...34_0_index.php

I think my rule of thumb for standard (non-modified) cars, covering SC's, 3.2's and 964's, still stands. They are a £20k car. You buy for less and spend the difference doing them up or you pay that for a sorted one.

Cant remember having seen this before..no doubt Frank will correct me shortly though ..

Seems good value. Anyone know the seller? comes with Boxter seats and lots of mods.

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...-manual/748585

Thats lovely and I would buy it if I had the ££, would prefer it with blue accents though

could be a good buy for someone late model C2 , however ripping the interior out is a must :crying:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1993-PORSC...item2ec24384c2

Is anything actually selling at the moment. Seems to be a glut out there (but alot of it looks average)

most classic cars are up over 30% over last 3 years, some up over 100% in that period. I remember the90's crash and think with some of the values being asked we are heading close to a similar cliff.

check H&H auction in september.....not sure if this is a sign or reserves too high but less than 50% sold (they usually report 90% sales success). Guess if dealers are not shifting stock, they wont be at the auctions to buy more.

http://www.classic-auctions.com/Auct...urse-1322.aspx

The 97 jeep cherokee for £680 seems a steal! ;)

All of our cars will be worthless in the next 20-30 years anyway. We hit peak oil a long time ago. It's all one way from here. Stock up on seeds and find somewhere nice for your vegetable patch....

v little info on this one but looks like a bargain..suspension looks like its been done right, updated from flags to aeros and wheels are cool. anyone know anything about this car?
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...cp-1990/838984

I was amazed just how cheap that car is

The bonnet to bumper alignment looks like it has been hit.

Would take a good look at the panel gaps. Might explain the price.

guy doesn't answer his emails or the phone so i guess i'll never know.

Ah maybe that's it. Makes sense

Have no experience with the reliability of pistonheads classifieds so not sure how many flase ads they get. Hopefully just someone that doesn't check their email.

Hi, did anyone ever get to the bottom of this add??

sorry just noticed it sold actually but u prob right. yes the blue car is stonking value

37,000 miles C4 BBS LM's £29K
http://www.paul-stephens.com/Porsche...-Coupe/car4166

Stunning

29k for a LHD C4??

Dont know the miles obviously but seems to be a lot of extra money for a nice set of wheels :)

I'm with you there Gary. I do love those wheels, just not 'that' much ;)

Maybe it just looks good value compared to some of the other stock? someone may fall in love with it.

True...but it has 37000 miles. practically new.

It wouldnt be difficult to fall in love with, but for the life of me I dont see how a 29k LHD C4 can represent good value

But as we know, it only needs one person to buy it

i reckon i would find a few extra grand and nab this :)

http://www.dorchestersports.co.uk/22518//stock.htm

Very nice, and a truly great colour, pictures really dont do it any justice

Like it a lot....but absolutely hate the interior. Almost enough to put me off buying it.

hahaha..u know what......its the same thing i thought as well.......that interior......crikey what were they thinking???

The owner also has it for sale at that price on the PCGB forum. So I guess it's on sale or return and therefore you might get it for less by buying direct (I'm sure the owner will end up losing a few K by doing it through a dealer)?

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6153/6...4fcf04af_z.jpg

Let us know how you get on? ;)

Boxsey I saw it on pcgb and didn't sell. Then went to dealer and was up at 39k now its down to 34.... Surely a deal to be done

Halvies mate??? :)

Don't tempt me mate! :nono:

Actually....over beers the night before the Oulton trackday, Cheeksboy and me had a discussion about the 'GT3 itch'. :D We decided that although the potential to go faster is very tempting...we both agreed that the 964 crowd is a far nicer place to be. :biggulp:

Yeah I hear ya. I couldn't bring myself to sell the 964 so it would have to be an addition and even then would still hang it with u blokes! :)

+1 :burnout:

The guys on this forum have been great. It is amazing the different types of people you get on various forums and for various cars. It would seem that 964s do attract decent people as owners!

....and when the need arises we have Cheeksyboy and the Hornet to go chasing those pesky GT3s! :cool:

Damn right - 964s forever :D

seriously the fit of the front number plate on the GT3,

quickly designed by a team on a Friday eve just before going on holiday....
I would rather have a sticker on the front bumper

John's car is now for sale...
http://www.findaporsche.com/road-tri...964-carrera-4/

Now that is gorgeous, loving Zanzibar red on the GT3!

Marky from 911uk has sold his 964 turbo and bought one of these (Club Sport tho) and they're cracking.

Just stick on some LMs and its done :jumper:

Chris

I know that GT3 very well having had many a high speed passenger lap in it round Oulton Park by the previous, previous owner (Rikki). It is indeed a beauty. Strangely I picked up on PH that Marky is not exactly loving the way it drives at the moment.

that Red C4 and black targa at Phil Rabys both look good buys at their current prices

Gents,

Just thinking when we post cars here we should post a pic, price, milage and model etc so we have a thread that documents UK prices?

'93 Jubilee being sold by Adrian Crawford , 89k miles - £ 36,950
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...versary/855414

Nice car

C2 Targa - 31,000 - manual - £ 26,995
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...2-targa/794036

C4 Cobalt, resprayed, rebuilt, - £ 28,900

All the pics are finally up. Rennlister owned.

http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...sprayed/663840

That Cobalt blue at JZM is fantastic. I'd be interested but not at that price. Rennlister owned you say? Is it a JZM or Sale or Return car?

Fellers..... surely one of the rarest Porsches ever. Carrera 4 Lightweight - Carrera 4 Leichtbau

Price on Application but must be horrendous...

http://www.maxted-page.com/cars/car-details.aspx?id=144

Stunning

Weird Car! Investment only surely. The ultimate 'bin end' car. Most seem delivery mileage. Anyone ever driven one in anger? If so be great to hear your experience.

PS collect a really rare 964 next Saturday! Rarer than this!!!!! Whooohaaahaaahh. Watch this space!

Love that C4 LWT - it's been for sale for a little while now.

:corn:

Hi Frank, been away with house building. How is the 3.8 ? Next get together, will be up for a meet and chat!

Not even a welded cage! What is this? The welded 'Cup' esque cage strengthens the chassis so very much over the standard chassis. Would have thought the Motorsport version would have had the welded cage as standard!

Ps love the additional clocks and the biased dial in dials though. ' buttons are good' :rockon::rockon:

I believe it's being sold by JZM. On behalf of 'Ajstephe'

Here's a thread by him from February when he bought it:
https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...964-owner.html

I suggest giving him a PM.

It's slow progress but getting there, thanks. Sure thing, look forward to it.

Love the C4 lightweight , some very nice & inspiring details ....
I quite like the rear spoiler...

i dont know quite why but that cobalt blue c4 ad bugs me. Just cos you do a top end rebuild / paint etc doesnt mean u can reset the miles to zero.. Im sure its a fine piece of machinery and i love the way it looks but at end of day its a restored 125k mile c4 and not sure its priced appropriately. Im sure most will disagree but it is what it is. I have a mint 964 with 125k and a top end done.. i wouldnt advertise it with 700 miles on the clock. Price wise it prob is correct if u assume that what money u pour into a project you get out but when has that ever been the case. Bascically im cranky today and think the mileage field needs amending.

Yeah, I'd agree with that. I'd advertise the engine as 700 miles but not the car.
Price wise - it's definitely steep. But it's less than the work it would take on another so probably worth it for someone who's got the immediate cash and wants one that is 'worry' free.

A chap contacted me about a month ago about buying a 964 (C2 or C4 coupe), after having sold his 993. The demand for 964s is so strong over here at the moment that he's having a helluva job even getting to even see one! There was a midnight blue one in Kent that went very quick and he's just missed the one advertised by Rennlist member HAB5000. So if anyone has one for sale...let me know!

Is he not then interested in the Cobalt Blue one?

I'm with you on that. (JLJ11.... Took ages to hit enter!)

That one is way over priced IMHO. I think JZM have jumped on the 964 gravy train by pricing it that strong. It would also defeat the object of buying a 964 for less than he sold the 993 for.....he's not looking for a 'refreshed' car and was hoping to buy in the £16K or so category...a task that is looking to be really tough right now.

The owner of the car in question (a Rennlister natch) appears to have bought the car a few months ago and commissioned all this work on it, only to decide to sell.

A shame for him as I can't imagine it's to his advantage.

That'd be my old c4 coupe for sale at JZM. They bought it outright from me as I needed to free up capital for a personal business investment so I have no financial interest in the car anymore. I was quite surprised at the price they have it up for. Do I regret selling? Yes every day! I spent a lot on it and it was meant to be a keeper and never intended to be resold. Unfortunately I had to let it go.

Bummer.. I hope your new investment pays off for you and your in the seat of a Porsche real soon, so all the best:thumbsup:

I think there's lot of people on this forum that have spent big £££ on there 964 and I for one would never get back what I have spent on mine but that's just the thing with old cars unless your lucky to find a never been used barn find!! But I'm just getting it the way I want it now so I'm happy with mine and that's what matters to me!!

So personally I would not buy it at that money as I like the upgrading/ restoring myself or trusted friends but for someone that wants a good to go 964 that's very nice 964 like this car I can understand it to!!

Bummer +1; I hope the choices this enables you to make yields dividends down the line

Regarding the 964 C4 LTW
#001 is tucked away here in North Carolina. Boy is it a loud car. Haven't driven it, but have seen it a couple times.

Not a detailed drive description, but it's something...
http://road-scholars.com/spending-th...uber-rare-911/

Jzm have a nice looking 964 turbo on for pretty reasonable money (for them anyway)

http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-fo...2-for-sale-369

The 2 964s that P Raby had for sale both have deposits down which tbh is not surprising as they were pretty well priced

Be intersting to see when the c4 at JZM sells for 29k

Picked up the RS Touring (centre) on Saturday. Its a lovely car!

Very nice Barty. Is that similar to the one you owned before? By the sounds of things, even more special. You'd best post some more pics up for us :thumbup:

More pics or a dedicated thread are a must!

What model 944 is that on the right in white?

Its a 968, no?

Yes

It is a very tidy 968 RHD, which has had engine and suspension mods to make it a little more sporty. It's not mine, just storing it for the winter for my friend. Will post some more of the car.

It is the same car, I had put it up for sale at GT Classics, had lots of people look at it and some low offers.
Unfortunately the un educated on the RS are so rigid only considering the LWT, when the Touring is equally as good and a lot easier to live with.
It is a 40k Miles No 1 of 7 produced for the UK market, all original panel, no mods all original inside (cassette player) riding with Mags. Will post some pics!

here are some recent photo's of the car and cars

Ah thought it looked familiar :)

It looks amazing, are you glad you still own it? I would be. After all, if you're gonna have 2 RSs in your stable, you may as well have 3 ;)

Absence makes the heart grow fonder!

So glad it didn't sell, won't be going far for the foreseeable!

Will give it an airing on the next meet!

Sounds like a dream garage to me. Amazing!

Would love a passenger ride in a 964 rs ...........

968 - nice! U guys have good eyesight to pick that. Could have sworn it was a 944 ;)

Great, I'd love to see it in the flesh. Good on ya :thumbup:

Gorgeous!

Tims car appears to be for sale.....very reasonable price too IMO

http://www.911uk.com/ads_item.php?id=3965

or how about a 3.8RS widebody...for smidge under 100 notes

http://www.gtclassics.co.uk/gtcsales/car2a.htm

Tim Richardson is on the 911Uk forum, surprised he is selling... car looks great, especially at that price.

Im guessing that's the 9M rs widebody at GT Classics?

Cheers for the comments fella's. Just flirting with the idea of selling as have seen something else aircooled that has got me very tempted. Going to leave it up for a few more days and see if it gains any interest otherwise will be taking it down and enjoying for the foreseeable future :D

My thoughts too. IIRC it was built from a 964RS lightweight. :cool:

What else were you looking at Tim?

MAybe my brower settings but i cant see anything??

Don't do it, you'll regret it...

What other aircooled are you thinking of getting? 2cv? Beetle?

This looks lovely but makes tim's car look like an even bigger bargain

http://www.rpmtechnik.co.uk/sales/st...g-preparation/

A wise man once said to me that once you have driven air-cooled 911 nothing else will compare...how true.

In answer to your question Jack it's another Porker of course!

Tim, I'll bet that phone of yours is hot this afternoon after folks found out that yours was for sale. ;)

Liking the RPM C2!

It's lovely but it's also not original if that matters to some??
That said I want Steve's white C2 with the red carrera stripes and setup

Mate, that's just being greedy when you've already got your own! :D

p.s. Decals came off earlier this year.....trying to decide what to put on it next.

Steve you must have the most sorted 964 out there!
Speed lines look good on a white car but maybe not so good for track use.

PM.

Lovely black rs on at jzm

http://www.jzmporsche.com/porsche-fo...s-for-sale-371

Looks nice, wide body, cat D 30k

http://www.cars4youdirect.co.uk/vehi...-desc/limit/10

cat D 30K:eek: seen the damage pictures of that one if its Berts old car not sure light is the right description

So about 10k overpriced then...

No thank you

1990 C4 Zermatt or Polar Coupe Manual. £ 13,995
Top end rebuild by Unit 11 at 150K.
Paint work is rather shabby with rust on sills, wings, scuttle. Rubbers need replacing.
Front rotors and pads need doing. Rears were done 5K ago.
http://classifieds.pistonheads.com/c...-4-1990/921529

1990 C4 Guards Coupe Manual. £ 9,000
No rebuild - 174K miles.
http://www.911uk.com/ads_item.php?id=4006

Track Car 1992 C2 Cobalt Coupe Manual. £ 26,000
993 six speed. Full roll cage, buckets, striped interior. Big Reds, RS suspension components. Looks like a hot film conversion?
http://www.911uk.com/ads_item.php?id=3940

1991 C2 Baltic Coupe Manual. £ 13,250
This one really looks a winner. The paint looks lovely. Been around for a while, could it be the colour?
http://www.911uk.com/ads_item.php?id=3513

The C4 seems overpriced if it has the rust and rotors and pads issues.. but I could not see any of that in the ad, do you know this car? plus an engine rebuild for £4k, including clutch and flywheel? is than not a bit cheap? not confidence inspiring. Also hate the steering wheel and wheels.

The C2 looks lovely, I love that colour. Perhaps the high mileage and lack of rebuild are responsible....

Silver one is discussed here by the owner

http://www.911uk.com/viewtopic.php?t=76926

That car is pretty damn ropey. I thought this thread was for Great UK 964s ...;)

I like the cobalt one.

Er brain fade I meant baltic - in my defence its nearly an anagram

The baltic blue one went a long time ago and is now owned by a 911uk forum member. Not long after buying it some catastrophic engine work was needed. He's ended up buying another engine and making the best from the two with plenty of new parts. When he's finished it will likely push the overall cost to £20k+

The 'new entry' Guards Red at £9k is very good value and with money spent should be an investment. I thought hard about it but really I'm looking for one that comes with most/all works done and accept I will have to pay the premium. Somehow I just cant push myself for the cobalt blue C4 at JZM - it is just too much.

Bit of a bummer for whoever bought that baltic one then! I think there is a certain degree of engine roulette when you buy any 20year old supercar though.

Such a bargain that Keith has now sold it, all within 48 hours I think. :eek:

Bought by a 911uk member. New owner will love it!

Chris

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160928418160

https://i.ebayimg.com/t/1990-PORSCHE...96g~~60_57.JPG

No door handles - looks very clean. Although I wouldn't have the brass to do that mod!

That's a killer look - slate grey, RH speedlines, red calipers. Very, very nice! Sounds like it may need some work but worthy of this thread.

Just noticed that!! How does that work? Remote opening?

No idea, but to get through a UK MOT it has to have some kind of manual release. I think it looks poor myself having no handles, otherwise nice. LHD and no sunroof is a real bonus as well.

John

Doing well so far over 13k with 6 days to run

Looks nice externally, though I'm not keen on the Max power doors (opened by solenoid I guess) or the ruffled leather non sports seats

Also dropping oil after each run suggests the leak is possibly quite bad, Ive never seen one that actually drops oil on a regular basis

Interesting to know what suspension its got on it

Great colour though :) (I'm pretty certain its Stone grey, not slate)

This targa is doing the rounds .....when will they realise the price is barking!

http://www.paul-stephens.com/Porsche...hanced/car4298

Nice car and quite fun that its a targa in my book, at least its different, but 40k is 'avin' a giraffe

I'm diggin the targa lately.....strange never liked,um before:icon107:

I quite like Targas, even though the market does not seem to..
Have to say though, that price is truly bizzare. I know a car is worth what someone is willing to pay but personally I would not even pay £25K for that car

You're forgetting its Paul Stephens. They sell cars for top prices I promise you

Maybe it comes with 15 grand in cash in the glovebox :D