after the battery is re connected?
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after the battery is re connected?
i have had to take the battery out and have agood clean out under the bonnet....counld not stand the muck any more..
Now its a clean an put back together again....and something in the back of my mind tells me i have read something about possibly the engine management electronics after a battery dis connection..
Gents what am i half remembering.. something or nothing..
Dont do that not the nine oclock news sketch thing on me again im new to this car of mi dreams and am assured this is the best web site to get answers
Now its a clean an put back together again....and something in the back of my mind tells me i have read something about possibly the engine management electronics after a battery dis connection..
Gents what am i half remembering.. something or nothing..
Dont do that not the nine oclock news sketch thing on me again im new to this car of mi dreams and am assured this is the best web site to get answers
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Wish I could remember whom to credit for this bit of wisdom. Could be lorenfb. Could be one of several knowledgeable folks on this forum.
At any rate, I suspect this is the info you are after:
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At any rate, I suspect this is the info you are after:
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Idle Adaptation "What exactly is a 'system adaptation', and how is this different from a battery disconnect reset of the DME?" The 964 DME ECM has two adaptations: 1. Idle Adaptation - On the earlier 3.2 DME system the idle was set by an external jumper (caused open-loop idle) & then the idle screw was set to "center" the idle RPM. On the 964, the Hammer causes the DME to go open-loop and then causes the DME to "step" to the center for 880 RPMs. This results in the closed-loop idle being "centered" for full regulation. 2. CO adaptation - The 964 DME ECM goes thru a CO adaptation whereby it runs open-loop without the O2 sensor to "center" the CO setting to allow for small variable changes, e.g. air leaks, fuel pressure, so in the closed-loop mode the O2 system has optimal range (similar to TRA in OBDII). Both of the adaptation values are "lost" if the constant battery voltage (pin 18) is removed. #1 above requires use of the Hammer. #2 occurs at initial running after battery voltage "loss". "What happens with the idle in the case of a battery disconnect and no hammer adaptation?" The closed-loop still maintains the target idle of 880 RPMs but it's not optimized for load changes, e.g. the A.C. compressor, the fans, the lights, and the adapted CO setting.
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Honestly, I have disconnected the battery something like eleventy-million times (because my car is named Shorty, The Battery Killer ) and I have never needed to perform this procedure. My car idles as smoothly afterward as any of these cars ever do, with accessories on or off.
I'm sure that I've jinxed myself, now that I've said it.
I'm sure that I've jinxed myself, now that I've said it.
#6
Burning Brakes
I too have disconnected the battery many times and had no problems. It would be interesting if I had a hammer and ran an adaption, that the car would run even smoother.
I have the scan tool that was made by a rennlister. Does this have an apdation program?
I have the scan tool that was made by a rennlister. Does this have an apdation program?
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It does but I never noticed it doing anything. If you just drive the car it will learn on its own.
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Same goes for me. I had the battery out of the car for 6 months this past winter. Come spring time, I reconnected, turned the key and it idles perfectly. Haven't had any issues yet since reconnecting.
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Mine will never idle smoothly after battery disconnection, until it goes on the hammer. Which is most irritating, as lots of DIY's require battery disconnection. I've just had to learn to live with the tendancy to stall and bad idle, otherwise i'd be spending a fortune at my local indy!!!
I thought a dodgy aftermarket chip might be causing this, however on opening up the DME, I appear to have a stock chip.
I just don't get it!!!!!!!
I thought a dodgy aftermarket chip might be causing this, however on opening up the DME, I appear to have a stock chip.
I just don't get it!!!!!!!
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Mine plays up every time i disconnect the battery but all you need to do is follow the instructions in the owner's handbook. Start the car and leave on idle for 15 to 20 mins. At some point during this time it will suddenly start idling properly. Going out for a spirited drive will not cure the problem. As far as i'm aware the ECU can't adapt itself to different driving styles. And don't spend good money having it put on a Hammer before you've tried it.
Martin
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I actually disconnect the battery on my cars all the time. I never had a problem with the RSA idling rough after re-connect and start-up.
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This is interesting. The fellows who are reporting problems after reconnecting the battery are all from the UK.
Having just had to replace my battery after it went flat, I can say that idle was fine straight away.
Are there possibly differences in the control units USA vs. ROW?
Brian
Having just had to replace my battery after it went flat, I can say that idle was fine straight away.
Are there possibly differences in the control units USA vs. ROW?
Brian
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