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Old 12-29-2008, 01:54 PM
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Yeah if memory serves, that's the only way it could work for some reason.

I measured the degree on the substraps and they were right about 20 degrees or so. Valve Float could probably clarify, but I think the belts come up more or less straight through the holes in the seat.
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Old 12-29-2008, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg View Post
very nice!!, and the rear bolts clear Pole position seat bottoms in the back??
Although the rear bolts just cleared the seat, it was safer to take a few mm off them to be sure (you can just about see that in the pic). Good luck, I'm sure you'll get it all sorted soon.
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Old 12-29-2008, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ValveFloat View Post
The sub bar is mounted on top of the side mounts, sandwiched between the washers and the side mounts.
Thanks, that does make more sense, that is the Porsche oem 996 GT3 sub bar pictured, right?
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Originally Posted by Bill Verburg View Post
Thanks, that does make more sense, that is the Porsche oem 996 GT3 sub bar pictured, right?
It looks identical to part 11 shown here, but you would have to confirm with 917k that they are the actual Porsche parts.
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Old 12-29-2008, 06:33 PM
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Yep that's them. They are straight off the Euro GT3 seats and can be ordered individually from Porsche. They are $50-60 each if memory serves. I also just looked at my GT3 that I recently put Euro GT3 (Recaro) seats in. On these seats the sidemount bolts to the slider and sub bar mounts on top not sandwiched under the slider. I can take a pic if necessary.
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Old 12-29-2008, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Porsche917K View Post
Yep that's them. They are straight off the Euro GT3 seats and can be ordered individually from Porsche. They are $50-60 each if memory serves. I also just looked at my GT3 that I recently put Euro GT3 (Recaro) seats in. On these seats the sidemount bolts to the slider and sub bar mounts on top not sandwiched under the slider. I can take a pic if necessary.
Thanks, this is all great to know. Hopefully others down the road will have a clearer path.
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Old 12-29-2008, 07:47 PM
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Funny I just went to the tech website for our local PCA to look around and see what was up.

A guy wanted to install a harness kit into his new C4S for track use by bolting it to the slider tracks as in the GT3 so as not to drill holes in his new car.

Several people pointed out to the questioner that this was against our rules and that the entire harness had to be bolted directly to the chassis (subs, sides and shoulders) and could not use the seat tracks as a mounting point.

So local rules may play a part in deciding how to mount a harness kit.
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Old 12-29-2008, 08:03 PM
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Thanks for bringing that up Cupcar. PCA racing rules clearly state that sub harnesses should be bolted through the floor. Everyone needs to asses what level of safety equipment they are comfortable with and what the local PCA region requires when they are adding this type of stuff to the car. There are lots of GT3 guys here in Portland who run the sub bar setup, but that doesn't mean it will fly anywhere.
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Old 12-29-2008, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by demonfish View Post
exactly how i have mine, in the right place according the the RS sheet metal work dimensions.
Where can I get my hands on the dimensions?

Anyone have any pics sans carpet?

Cheers.
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Old 12-29-2008, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Porsche917K View Post
Thanks for bringing that up Cupcar. PCA racing rules clearly state that sub harnesses should be bolted through the floor.
Reading this thread has made me think twice about who I should work with to install Recaro PPs. I could order the southbound item from the UK but the setup is already expensive down here. The importance of a properly attached seat is highlighted in this doc. just released by the Australian Motorsport mob.

http://www.cams.com.au/downloads/abo...rst_Report.pdf

Has anyone else in Australia installed Pole Positions who could share some local suppliers details?
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Old 12-29-2008, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ag02M5 View Post
Where can I get my hands on the dimensions?

Anyone have any pics sans carpet?

Cheers.
Sure, images 3 & 4 located in the Body Volume on page 51-102 of the FSM

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Old 12-30-2008, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by carby View Post
Reading this thread has made me think twice about who I should work with to install Recaro PPs. I could order the southbound item from the UK but the setup is already expensive down here. The importance of a properly attached seat is highlighted in this doc. just released by the Australian Motorsport mob.

http://www.cams.com.au/downloads/abo...rst_Report.pdf

Has anyone else in Australia installed Pole Positions who could share some local suppliers details?
The Southbound mounting point is only meant for the normal 3 point receiver. If fitting motorsport harnesses aswell the inside harness should really be attached to the tunnel as shown earlier in this thread.
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my sub belt is floor mounted - then sealed up very well!!!
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Old 12-30-2008, 09:07 AM
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It's true that PCA requires that the subs be bolted to the floor

but

John H. makes a good point in this thread about the alternative of using a bar

In addition the fact the the factory uses a bar is an indicator of their feelings.

The big question is , What other reinforcement to the floor mounts and sliders did the factory use on 996/997 that isn't used on 964/993? I sure dunno
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I'll take a close look at all the hardware on my GT3 tonight and try to compare and contrast the parts since I have now done this on the 964 and 996.
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