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Old 08-18-2008, 01:28 AM
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Question Suspension Recommendations

First of all, yes, I searched the forum. But just want to double check in case new alternatives are available for our cars.

Looking to improve the ride in my car as the suspension feels really tired...

This car will never see a day at the track. Still, I am looking for a solid feel on the road.

Maybe I should just install new stock shocks and be done with it... but if there is a cost effective solution for a better and proven setup. I am all ears.
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Which car are you talking about there, Jaime?
Old 08-18-2008, 07:39 AM
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Which car are you talking about there, Jaime?
964, of course
Old 08-18-2008, 08:05 AM
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If money is not an issue, JIC Cross. Leaps and bounds beyond everything else available for our cars.
Old 08-18-2008, 09:19 AM
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Ilk, JIC Cross offers two levels of suspension kits: street, and competition.
('Competition' MSRP: $2,880.)
Which were you referring to?
For a "car that will never see a day at the track"?
For one that will see the track 3 times a year?
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Originally Posted by elbeee964
Ilk, JIC Cross offers two levels of suspension kits: street, and competition.
('Competition' MSRP: $2,880.)
Which were you referring to?
For a "car that will never see a day at the track"?
For one that will see the track 3 times a year?
It is for the 964. The car will not see track duty at all. So I am looking for something less expensive than JIC.

I already have the JIC in the list of mods for the 996TT... that one I hope to take to the track as often as I can.
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The competition is very comfortable on the street. I rode in a JIC Comp equipped car and it was firm, very well balanced and not too hard at all.

For less money I would go with Koni or Bilstein HD along with Eibach Pro springs. Most people use H&R red springs, but the Eibachs I've found to be a little softer so ride quality will be slightly better. You're looking at around $1,000 for that set up. A year ago when I was in the market I found that Shox.com had the lowest prices.
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Originally Posted by ilko
The competition is very comfortable on the street. I rode in a JIC Comp equipped car and it was firm, very well balanced and not too hard at all.

For less money I would go with Koni or Bilstein HD along with Eibach Pro springs. Most people use H&R red springs, but the Eibachs I've found to be a little softer so ride quality will be slightly better. You're looking at around $1,000 for that set up. A year ago when I was in the market I found that Shox.com had the lowest prices.
Thank you!

008. Koni sport shocks and H&R spring package. 1990 - 1993 H&R lowers 1.5 in. US$1025.00

It has to be a low cost setup, I can't spend 3K on each car... I am willing to do so with the 996TT (JIC + links + bars from Vivid Racing) since that one will see the track. But for the 964 that will only see street use, that Koni/H&R package looks like a good alternative.
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The Konis are also adjustable and can be made to be very stiff or quite soft.
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Before I forget, call and ask if the fronts are inserts or standalone shocks. If they are inserts, you'll have to reuse the bottom part of your front shocks. Not difficult to do, but just wanted to let you know there is some cutting involved...
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Originally Posted by Wachuko
008. Koni sport shocks and H&R spring package. 1990 - 1993 H&R lowers 1.5 in. US$1025.00
IIRC - Koni doesn't make the correct shock for the "early" designed rears. I had to get Bilsteins for the '90, the change happened mid year for MY91's.
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My Bils/H&R setup was a tad too stiff for constant street use. Also, if you plan on taking any longer trips in the 964, you may want to ride in one with a similiar setup before switching over.

Its a blast on winding mountain roads however.....

EDIT: My springs are the Red Turbo's.

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Old 08-18-2008, 02:31 PM
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when replacing the suspension on my integrale, i opted for new standard springs and shocks... its amazing how good they are when new...

maybe just new oem with a tweak on the ride height?
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I have H&R reds and Koni's on my 91, and there was no issue with install. Not a bad ride, but if I was going all street, I would go greens and koni's. With the reds it plenty comfortable for me, but the wife complains a bit. With the greens, you could set it so it was very comfortable, just a bit sharper than stock.
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I've got the Bilstein/H&R Red(Turbo) setup and the Euro RS alignment. 17" Wheels, 7.5, and 9.0 wide, and 225, and 255 width Nitto NT-01.

It is a little stiff on the street but not unbearable. I drove this 180 miles to the track this weekend, and the setup is fine for the road. Pretty damn good for the track as well!


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