aeroman

Thanks.

cobalt

I am pretty sure they won't.

If they are HD's are from a 94 turbo definitely no. I believe the C4 was specific to the AWD system and is listed as a different strut than the ones used for the RWD cars.

Computamedic

According to the Pelican site the front struts are the same for all variations of the 964. Details below:

VE3-5277HO-M12 Front Bilstein Strut, Left, 911 Carrera 2/4 (1989-94), 911 Turbo (1991-93), Each $234.75

VE3-5278HO-M12 Front Bilstein Strut, Right, 911 Carrera 2/4 (1989-94), 911 Turbo (1991-93), Each $234.75

AFAIK, the rears are also the same although the Pelican site doesn't seem to confirm that. The Turbo uses the later (post 91) mounts obviously.

The only major difference in the suspension is in the springs used and the wide bodied cars use the outer mountings for the front struts.

Regards

Dave

cobalt

Could be but the PET shows all the C4's to use a different front strut vs the C2 turbo they also use a stiffer front spring. Dampening may be different for the C4's but might not be an issue with the HD's

C4 part # 964.343.041(042).02
C2 part # 964.343.041(042).03
C2 91 on 964.343.041(042).04
91 turbo M030 RSA 965.343.041(042).00
94 turbo 965.343.041(042).02

Computamedic

Anthony,

You are correct - but the OEM struts were Boge and the original question was about HD's - I assume meaning Bilstein. Porsche may have chosen to make small changes for the Boge parts - indeed the Turbo units have a 965 part number - but Bilstein apparently chose NOT to make the distinction. As you say, however, the springs ARE different.

Regards

Dave

cobalt

Makes sense. However, the 94 turbo parts will not fit anything but a 94 turbo so he needs to determine what year they are from.

Computamedic

Anthony,

I'm assuming you are referring to a Turbo 3.6 since that was the only Turbo produced in 1994. It may well be that the parts are different although, again, I have never seen any different parts quoted by Bilstein as being specific for the Turbo 3.6. I guess the real answer is to identify the Bilstein part numbers rather than make any rash assumptions.

Regards

Dave

cobalt

Dave,

Yes, I had to return the HD struts for the 91 turbo as they will not fit my 94. Apparently something different in the way they mount.

cobalt

I have to check my receipts but my 94 shows as PN F4BE56130H1 vs the 91-92 turbo which shows as F4GM5A614H2

Computamedic

Anthony,

The part number you list as for the '94 Turbo is, in fact, listed by Bilstein as a 993 part. Pelican list THAT part as "911 Turbo 1994-1998" so it might be that Porsche used the 993 strut on the Turbo 3.6. Here's Pelican's listing:

VE3-B648HO-M12

Front Bilstein Strut (Heavy Duty), Left, 911 Carrera 2/4 (1994-98), 911 Turbo (1994-98), Each Brand: Bilstein $391.25

VE3-B649HO-M12

Front Bilstein Strut (Heavy Duty), Right, 911 Carrera 2/4 (1994-98), 911 Turbo (1994-98), Each Brand: Bilstein $391.50

I was certainly not aware that the Turbo 3.6 had substantially different suspension - it's interesting to find that out. I wonder if the regular 964 C2/C4 of 1994 had the same?? The 993, according to PET, had 993.xxx part numbers and they don't appear in any of the 964 models.

Regards

Dave

myturbo36

I have installed a set of 94 Turbo 3.6 front & rear struts/springs on a 91 964 wihtout issue.

ThunderC4S

Can someone please clarify exactly which Bilstein HD's will fit a 1994 964 Turbo 3.6 ?

Tirerack.com lists the following units:

F4-VE3-5277-H0 (Left Front)
F4-VE3-5278-H0 (Right Front)
F4-B46-1547-H0 (Rears)

Or is this the correct setup (993 Turbo Parts) for 1994 964 Turbo 3.6 -:

VE3-B648HO-M12 Front Bilstein Strut Heavy Duty, Left
VE3-B649HO-M12 Front Bilstein Strut Heavy Duty, Right
BE5-6130H1-M12 Rear Bilstein Shock Absorber Heavy Duty, Left
BE5-6131H1-M12 Rear Bilstein Shock Absorber Heavy Duty, Right

Bilstein.de website lists the following:

V36-0384 Suspension Strut BILSTEIN - B6 SPORT (Front Left)
V36-0385 Suspension Strut BILSTEIN - B6 SPORT (Front Right)
B46-1547 Shock Absorber BILSTEIN - B6 SPORT (Rear)


Rgds,

ThunderC4S

Ag02M5

Me thinks the main difference between the turbo 3.6 and the turbo 3.3 front strut is the diameter of one or both of the mounting holes. I believe the bolt was increased in size for the 3.6. I have read that RUF recommended just drilling the hole larger to fit a 3.3 strut on the 3.6. Not sure of the issues going the other direction though it should "fit".

tjr

According to Adrian Streather (page 237 of his book) the springs and shocks on the US 3.6Ts are different from the ROW cars - only the front shocks are the same. Also, on page 260 he says:

"USA Turbo 3.6 models are fitted with revised shock absorbers and reinforced drive shafts. Rear coil springs and trailing arms, first used on the 1992 Turbo 3.3, were used for the USA version of the Turbo 3.6"

This may be why there is some confusion between what is listed in the US and elsewhere, so for a ROW car I'd go with whatever is listed on the Bilstein.de site.

cobalt

I think your spot on with this. I remember the problem having to do with a bolt size. I wanted the correct part.