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Old 12-28-2007, 11:58 AM
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What 5 spd ratios do you like for mainly track but occasional street/hwy?
Old 12-28-2007, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Ritter
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What 5 spd ratios do you like for mainly track but occasional street/hwy?
g50/10
Old 12-28-2007, 12:27 PM
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Looks like I am G50.03- does that mean just changing 1st and 2nd- or all of them?
Are they only Porsche OEM supplied?
Old 12-28-2007, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ritter
Looks like I am G50.03- does that mean just changing 1st and 2nd- or all of them?
Are they only Porsche OEM supplied?
correct but, 2 is fixed to the mainshaft(very expensive to change) and 1 is not used enough to justify changing.

If you are willing to give tolerate higher freeway revs then you could snug up 3 -5, but it also depends on the track(s) you drive at.
Old 12-28-2007, 01:13 PM
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So far the tracks have not been especially fast ones; CMP, Talladega GP, Barber and RA.
The others I will likely attend are Roebling and I hope VIR but mainly the ones above because they are the closest.
Old 12-28-2007, 02:05 PM
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that's the beauty of a nicely geared 6 speed. 3-5 are used the most on track.
a g50/30 3,4,5 is 95, 114, 140 then you have 6 @ 163 for faster tracks and highway.

a 5 spd can have either the tight 3-5 or a good compromise like the /03 or /10 3-5
Old 12-28-2007, 06:58 PM
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2 is not on the mainshaft on a 5spd gearbox, it is replacable. The gearing on any of the 5spds is still too long
Old 12-28-2007, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Geoffrey
2 is not on the mainshaft on a 5spd gearbox, it is replaceable.
right you are

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The gearing on any of the 5spds is still too long
Yes, if you have the luxury of trailering it in
Old 12-28-2007, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom W
Gearing is a matter of person preference and need.

My daily driver is a 993 with a 6-speed gearbox that was re-geared to shorter gearing about 5 years ago. It's quite nice and only a pain in stop-and-go traffic (but thats mainly due to the LWF, IMO). The stock 964 5-speed is less than optimal for track work and I can't imagine anyone thinking it would be an "upgrade" for anything but putt-putting around town when you are too lazy to want to shift. It is certainly a performance downgrade. I will likely pull the 6-speed out of the 993 and put it into the 964 this winter (and the 5-speed will go into the 993 until I can find a good used 6-speed gearbox).
D#MN you Tom!!! I was just crossing re-gear off the list as I just can't finance it (and a few other things, like LWF) and still make it out there this season. Guess I better start playing my buddy's simulator if I'm going to have a prayer of hanging with you guys.
Old 12-28-2007, 09:17 PM
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Chance: Drive what you have and enjoy it. It took me 2 years of learning/pushing my car in it's current configuration to get to the point where the weight I intend to have removed and the gearing change will likely mean a real difference in lap times. You will have plenty of folk out there to race with. I would like a chance at keeping up to Skip in his new car.
Old 12-29-2007, 01:43 PM
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I guess keeping up with Van Overbeek is out of the question?
Old 12-29-2007, 01:46 PM
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I bought a new G50/32 993 Supercup gearbox when they were available to replace the G50/10 that came in my Cup car.

It is a perfect box IMHO, the ratios as you can see in Bill Verberg's graphs slot nicely between the ratios of the G50/10 and 6th is just a touch taller than the G50'10's 5th.

The gearbox was a direct bolt in deal for my car, I also replaced the shift rod with the 993 RS part which has the solid universal joint which was also a nice touch.

Highly recommended changes
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Unobtainium ?
Old 12-29-2007, 01:55 PM
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Also the G50/32 has a nicer LSD split than the G50/10
Old 12-29-2007, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Cupcar
I bought a new G50/32 993 Supercup gearbox when they were available to replace the G50/10 that came in my Cup car.

It is a perfect box IMHO, the ratios as you can see in Bill Verberg's graphs slot nicely between the ratios of the G50/10 and 6th is just a touch taller than the G50'10's 5th.

The gearbox was a direct bolt in deal for my car, I also replaced the shift rod with the 993 RS part which has the solid universal joint which was also a nice touch.

Highly recommended changes
+1

I fitted a G50/32 supercup box to my 964 and it's one of the best bang for buck you can make IMO. The 964 performance dies when you shift into 4th. With the supercup box you just drive away from a 5sp equipped car at this point. You'd need an extra 20hp+ to make up the deficit.


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