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Old 11-14-2007, 12:07 AM
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Oh yeah and screw all that other noise and run PRC GTL!!!
Old 11-14-2007, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by chancecasey
Oh yeah and screw all that other noise and run PRC GTL!!!
It does look like fun for sure.

Both the popular classes in PRC are the toyo cup spec's (pre '89 cars) and the GTL (goodyear slick, 993 bodied dudes), both those classes look like fun, but again, I think I want to go a bit more modern (cause I do the work myself generally these days). I see Tom working to loose weight with the 964 tub.
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Originally Posted by chancecasey
Hey if you want to check out my C2 racecar project sometime, shoot me a PM. Not that you need it but I'll share my build sheet/plan and expenses, and some cost-cutting things I've done so far.
hee hee, see you at ARC.
what's wrong with your current 964? too nice to cut up or you want to get RWD.
Old 11-14-2007, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by kgorman
Ken,
By crate motor, I meant purchasing one from Porsche directly. Is that what you meant? I would assume that a new motor from Porsche is essentially a proper motor. Bad assumption?

Thanks for the offer on the motors. I was not thinking about going that far in terms of a 'build', more like just the mods for the track. But if it comes down to it maybe.

Perhaps I should have omitted the 20k number. It's not really all about the 20k number, I just want a good track candidate. I don't want to waste $$ on paint condition, or tire wear or seat wear, that kind of thing. See my point?
I'm still waiting to hear from someone who has taken apart one of these 996 crate engines. Unless Porsche has changed their reman program, the things are NOT factory new. Hence my comment about my personal experience taking a customer's 50Kish 2.4 factory reman engine apart for a bearing failure. (This was nearly 20 years ago.) You're getting something refurbished to stand up to a warranty for street use. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong here.....

In any case, a fresh (or nearly so) top end for a racer will be nice to have. Other mods? Last thing you need is more power. I'll say it again: RSA #1 ran 100% as it left the factory, minus the secondary muffler (yes, including the cat). And it was good for 2:03's @ Thunderhill. (Shocks, springs, RS bars, brake pads, and Hoosiers were the only deviations from as-delivered. I also opted to run it at 2750 as it was a factory a/c delete car.)
Old 11-14-2007, 09:59 AM
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Now I know why you said if I didn't buy the grey car, you just might!
Old 11-14-2007, 01:58 PM
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here is a nice completed RSA:

http://mall.rennlist.com/scripts/fea...uery=retrieval

It's a finished car and a lot more money, but when you start adding up the costs of building a $20k beater....
Old 11-14-2007, 02:50 PM
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It looks like a nice car, but I want to build myself. If I was going to buy any built car at the moment it would be Jim B's car.

Originally Posted by Cory M
here is a nice completed RSA:

http://mall.rennlist.com/scripts/fea...uery=retrieval

It's a finished car and a lot more money, but when you start adding up the costs of building a $20k beater....
Old 11-14-2007, 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kgorman
Essentially I am targeting PCA 'D' class, but likely will never run with PCA
I think that's a good idea. If you ever want to sell the car, building one to PCA spec may make it more marketable.

A really cool car to have would be the lightweight RSA, as Ken described above. If you could buy a C2, install a manual rack and then get the weight down to 2,760 lbs, I think you'd have a pretty nice track car and one which you could sell, if necessary, for some decent coin.

Keep in mind, as a stock class car, you can't use camber plates, aftermarket chip, 8:32 r&p, a wing, big brakes or strip out the interior (no bare metal). So it's actually a relatively ecnomical build and a really hot car for PCA racing. Whatever you do, make sure you know the rules cold before proceeding. Cage and seat requirements vary by racing orgs, so do the homework--it'll pay off in the end.
Old 11-14-2007, 06:27 PM
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Good advice Joey.

I will be trying to target as much as possible. But without a exact series/class in mind, I still have some homework to do.

I think RSA's are overvalued for race cars. Installing a manual rack, and removing weight costs a fraction of the difference of the C2 vs RSA. RSA's are not that much lighter. Plus, since RSA's are limited in numbers, let's keep those as pristine cars!

I can't believe no comments from Tom or Garrett. I am so bummed!
Old 11-14-2007, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kgorman
I can't believe no comments from Tom or Garrett. I am so bummed!
Well we know what Garrett will say! "Race the C4!!"

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but at least I will have a safe proper cage.
Custom welded I assume?
Old 11-14-2007, 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris M.
Well we know what Garrett will say! "Race the C4!!"



Custom welded I assume?
We've got a pretty nifty cage builder who's a friend to most of us.......his latest: http://www.modified.com/sportculture/tcracecar.html
Old 11-15-2007, 12:57 AM
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Oh, yeah, it would be Tony for sure. ;-)
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Originally Posted by Chris M.
Custom welded I assume?
Yes, exactly.
Old 11-15-2007, 02:17 AM
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Speaking of candidates (and not of the *** or elephant variety): http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/479336561.html
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Originally Posted by race911
Speaking of candidates (and not of the *** or elephant variety): http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/car/479336561.html

Damn, just noticed on rereading it's a C4.............


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