Peter Badore

Has anyone done a 1997 model year 993 Varioram swap into a 964? Did you need the dash wiring harness or other harnesses beside the DME harness? Would anyone be interested in buying one if I bid on a crashed very low miles 97 993 at an upcoming insurance auction? Any ideas on how much just the parts cost or are worth?

Colin 90 C2

I think you would just need the DME harness for a swap.
I may be interested in buying the engine if you are not going to use it. How much are you looking to get?

I've sent my info with a PM.

Colin

Peter Badore

I am not sure how costly this damaged 993 will be. The auction permits internet bidding and there are three large dismantlers in the Michigan area that always bid aggressively for damaged late model 911s with low miles. This 993 has only 27,000 miles showing on the odometer and almost no damage to the front body as the car was wrapped around a pole or light standard on the driver side door. About a year I bought a 964 for a Georgia dismantler and was suprised that it took almost $9500.00 for a car that had a severe engine compartment fire and a lot of miles on the odometer.

vaughan 88 911

Peter, A PCA member did the swap, yet his must have been the 1995 993 engine b/c I saw it listed
in the local PCA newsletter at the same time. Here is his evaluation including costs. He had RUF do the swap in Dallas. Here's his actual comments to me via email:

Well it’s pretty much the same engine actually. I spun a rod bearing in the original motor and it was cheaper to get the 993 motor installed than it was to rebuild the 964. Ruf found the 993 motor for me and put it in. I think a lot of the gain from 964 -> 993 was in the exhaust, and mine still has the stock 964 exhaust, so I didn’t notice a big difference in power or noise or anything. Maybe a bit more power, but not much. Ruf told me it was pretty much a drop-in replacement except for a few minor things (oil cooler line had a different fitting and I think they had to tap out one hole for the exhaust mounting). I don’t have any leaks but it does seem to use about as much oil as a typical air-cooled Porsche does. No more or less than the original though.

Anyway, unless you’re having problems with your 964 motor I wouldn’t do it just to do it, it’s not going to gain you that much, but it’s certainly a viable option if you are getting ready to do a rebuild or something. Doing the 993 motor was about $10k total for me, $5k for the motor and $5k for labor.

Good luck Peter, Vaughan, 10 yr pca member, dallas.

pete000

I was thinking that would be a great swap. Complete with the six speed trans. No more valve adjustments too...

JJJMCD

Most breakers get around $7,500 for a complete 993 motor.

Peter Badore

I now have some photos of the 97 993 from the auction site. Send me your your email address for the photos. Any guesses what the car will bring from registered salvage auction dealers? This is a local Michigan insurance auction and the state of Michigan is in economic shambles which might supress some high bidding prices. However, damaged 911s typically sell for surprisingly high money.