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Old 02-23-2007, 12:37 PM
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The following was posted by Chancecasey in my previous post regarding Bilstein HD and my Gemballa spring:

89-91 Stock 158/189
92-94 Stock 169/189
91-94 Option M030 169/263 (progressive rear, working rate)
93-94 RS America 169/263 (progressive rear, working rate)
91-92 Turbo 3.3 169/263 (progressive rear, working rate)
1992 Carrera RS (European) 247/440 (progressive front and rear, working rate)
1992 Carrera Cup USA 247/440 (progressive front and rear, working rate)

Progressive Fronts and Rears, static and working rates
H&R Green F-190/255 R-220/265
H&R Red F-250/275 R-270/295

I read the paper came with the Gemballa spring (all in German, so it's very difficult for me... ), and found there are 2 numbers listed as "overall coil coefficient" (Gesamtwindungszahl) : front 10.2, rear 11.75. Anyone know how to convert these numbers to the spring rates we usually used here (as listed above)?

I really feel sorry now that I didn't pay too much attention on physics in school....

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Patrick L
I read the paper came with the Gemballa spring (all in German, so it's very difficult for me... ), and found there are 2 numbers listed as "overall coil coefficient" (Gesamtwindungszahl) : front 10.2, rear 11.75. Anyone know how to convert these numbers to the spring rates we usually used here (as listed above)?
10.2 and 11.75 are the "free" length of the springs so to come up with a rate you'll need some additional information (coil diamater, wire diameter, # of turns, etc.)
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There are some other numbers: (Front / Rear)

AuBendurchmesser: 116mm / 104mm (outer diameter)
Drahtdurchmesser: 12.5mm / 11.0mm (wire diameter)
Gesamtwindungszahl: 10.2 / 11.75 (overall coil coefficient)
ungespannte Lange (lo): 325+5mm / 390mm (uncompress length)
Frei sichtbare Gewindelange unter dem Federteller: ca.16~17mm / ca. 16mm
(something regarding spring seat, no idea)
Federweganschlage (Serien-Elastopuffer, ungekurzt (auf Dampferkolbenstange)): ca.80mm lang / ca. 125mm lang (no idea)

Sorry for my poor German and physics....are these enough to calculate the spring rate?

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