Bull

I used it to fine tune the handling to suit my driving style, which was settings such that the car was close to neutral with a bit of oversteer. The shocks and sways were used to dial it in. I never changed the shocks for street driving, and it was fine, with many people surprised at the street ride. The stiffness and ride height are fully adjustable.

Chris M.

The spring rates for the coilover kit are essentially the same as the H&R reds so what do you get with the coilover kit that you don't get with the Bilstein shocks/H&R springs combo?

Geoffrey

A fully threaded body??? and with the Turbo, stiffer springs compared to the springs alone.

cobalt

It depends on the system you buy. The standard system does not seam to be different than the Bilstein setup. They go up from there and the complete coil over with camber plates is up in price range.

This is what they say about the H&R cup Coil Over: (bottom picture)

H&R Porsche Super Cup Racing Suspension - Porsche 911/964 C2, C4 Coupe 1989-1994. Porsche Super Cup Racing Suspension, is designed for the committed motorsport enthusiast who is willing to relinquish some ride comfort in return for ultimate handling performance. The firmest coil-over in the H&R street line, it is the choice for track and club sport events.
Equally at home on street or track, H&R coil-overs provide enhanced performance, improved corner-holding ability and a sleek, aggressive stance-without the bone-jarring ride of some less-advanced suspension systems. All H&R coil-overs are hand-assembled in Germany to rigid ISO 9001 and German TUV standards.

Chris M.

Sorry, novice here, what's the advantage of the threaded body? Also Geoffrey, where does one get the Porsche Sport book you mentioned in the Total 911 piece?

Geoffrey

You have more adjustment of the ride height with fully threaded shock bodies. The Porsche Sport books can often be found on ebay, especially the older ones. They became annual in 1993. www.motolit.com has recent ones as do some other motorsport book suppliers.

911skb

Flagg,
Do you know which H&R Coilover kit you purchased? There are about three models they sell, as others have mentioned. Apparently, the most street friendly set is around $1800 list or so.

911skb

So, does anyone have experience with the H&R Coilover - Street version?

How's the quality, adjustability, durability, etc?

Here's a link to the model:
http://www.optionimports.com/29580-2-946.html

My "new-to-me" 17" Turbo Twists from Marty in CO arrived today and now I am really anxious to get things going!

Thanks!

Chris M.

Is this the setup that Geoffrey quoted the spring rates for earlier in this thread? From the description it looks like only the ride height is adjustable.

Steven C.

I have HD's with Eibach springs and for the street it is a little harsh. The Eibachs I have are not progressive. For the track only it would be fine. The Ruf 964 Evo C4 discussed on another thread recently got the H&R reds to replace track springs and after riding in it, it is a more compliant street ride but still gets around corners well enough for DE's IMHO. I am planning on switching since I do not track my car very much.

Geoffrey

That is the same H&R coilover kit I referenced above. It has no adjustment other than limited height adjustment for corner balancing the car. Gert has the same kit and for an additional $100 he has the capability to provide additional range of adjusment.

911skb

Doesn't sound like the H&R Street coilovers are worth the $ then. I'll save my pennies for a PSS9 or Cross setup in the future then.

Thanks everyone for your input.

Turbo Jonny

Just ordered some bilsteins from Gert at Carnewal and i must say his service and price are second to none.

tonytaylor

I ran the street H+R coilovers for a couple of years and did a fair number of trackdays with them. They were a huge improvement over the stock suspension on track, like night and day, but were still usuable on the crap UK roads. I guess they're pretty well built because I sold them on via the garage that fitted them originaly when I upgrade as they were pretty much perfect condition at that time. The only problem I had was with rubbing issues at the track at RS ride height which eventually was blamed on the coilovers being a bit soft for spirited driving on soft compound tyres.
Incidentaly I upgraded to H+R supercups which are not a simple bolt on fit for a '90 C2 and IMO are far too stiff for road use but are a great track set up, well for me anyway.