Guards Red Paint Restoration on 1990 C4
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The red paint on my '90 C4 cab has slightly faded and has got a slight weather 'bloom'. What is the best way to restore the paint finish?
I had considered using a product like T Cut to take surface film off - but I am reluctant to use this as it seems very severe in its action.
Would a good wax alone - like Blitz, Zymol or Meguires be sufficient? I doubt it. I think I need to restore the paint surface first then apply a good wax to maintain it.
I am sure listers will have faced this problem and I should appreciate advice on this.
I had considered using a product like T Cut to take surface film off - but I am reluctant to use this as it seems very severe in its action.
Would a good wax alone - like Blitz, Zymol or Meguires be sufficient? I doubt it. I think I need to restore the paint surface first then apply a good wax to maintain it.
I am sure listers will have faced this problem and I should appreciate advice on this.
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You need an abrasive product to removed the oxidized paint. I would try 3M Perfect-It III with an orbital buffer (porter cable makes one). It is unlikely that you'd damage anything unless you were extremely careless. I'd follow that with Meguiars polish, then a top coat of wax.
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Have you searched the Rennlist concours forum? I'm sure they would have opinions.
https://rennlist.com/forums/concours-and-car-care-86/
Personnally, I use 3M's Hand Glaze to remove minor oxidation and use their PerfectIt when I need to be more agressive. I then top it off with The Wax Shop's SuperGlaze. No affiliation with either vendors.
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Personnally, I use 3M's Hand Glaze to remove minor oxidation and use their PerfectIt when I need to be more agressive. I then top it off with The Wax Shop's SuperGlaze. No affiliation with either vendors.
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Autoglym also have an equivalent of t-cut which I have used on my (white) car. But - you need to be careful with it - I have an area on my spoiler now that is lacking paint.....
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Dave- what did you use to apply the product? Most dual-action or random orbit tools won't do that unless you forget what you're doing. My GriotGarage buffer is fantastic on the Porsche paint and gives it a great finish. Does wonders on oxidization too with the right product. I'm using Griot's line for now; until I find something I like better.
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Ask around, find a detailer that people have had good experiences with, and take it there and let them look at it. What you need is something fairly aggressive using a good 'ol rotary in the hands of a skilled operator. That's what was done with mine, and it brought it back to 'red' from 'orange'.
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DO NOT WET SAND YOUR CAR! The 90 model does not have a clear coat and you could easily end up into the metal...quickly! I know from experience on another car that an idiot got hold of.
You need a random orbital buffer like the one Griots sells. Then any mild polish like the 3M mentioned or Meguiars #2. Take your time and do a section at a time. Once complete use a good wax or my fovorite Rejexs available on line or at aircraft supply houses.
You need a random orbital buffer like the one Griots sells. Then any mild polish like the 3M mentioned or Meguiars #2. Take your time and do a section at a time. Once complete use a good wax or my fovorite Rejexs available on line or at aircraft supply houses.
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Originally Posted by hawk911
Dave- what did you use to apply the product? Most dual-action or random orbit tools won't do that unless you forget what you're doing. My GriotGarage buffer is fantastic on the Porsche paint and gives it a great finish. Does wonders on oxidization too with the right product. I'm using Griot's line for now; until I find something I like better.
Although - from memory - I suspect the bottle might say "not for use on plastics". Never really thought they meant it though......
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Start soft. Red and white solid colours are the softest among all colours. Start with a polish (ie Autoglym) and then a top-wax without any polish. Avoid circles and work with a fender or a door at a time. Do not start of with too hard polish or rubbing.
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Get a Porter Cable 7424 - the Detailer's Friend. A heavy-duty unit that works wonders, and virtually impossible to do damage with, even in the paws of a squirrel like me. Not cheap but high-quality. Amazon had the best price when I bought mine.
http://www.autogeek.net/pocapobu.html
http://www.autogeek.net/pocapobu.html
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Originally Posted by Bearclaw
Get a Porter Cable 7424 - the Detailer's Friend. A heavy-duty unit that works wonders, and virtually impossible to do damage with, even in the paws of a squirrel like me. Not cheap but high-quality. Amazon had the best price when I bought mine.
http://www.autogeek.net/pocapobu.html
http://www.autogeek.net/pocapobu.html
and I think Detailed Image had the best price as a package when I bought mine. No affil. and shop around 'cause things change.
http://www.detailedimage.com/store/p...roducts_id=406
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Originally Posted by MarkD
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and I think Detailed Image had the best price as a package when I bought mine. No affil. and shop around 'cause things change.
http://www.detailedimage.com/store/p...roducts_id=406
and I think Detailed Image had the best price as a package when I bought mine. No affil. and shop around 'cause things change.
http://www.detailedimage.com/store/p...roducts_id=406
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I would be very careful ! Guards Red is notorious in the paint business for fading , going pink etc.
I had a wonder paint treatment done that hastened the pink effect.Sorry but I cannot remember which one.
Annual buffing for the Le Mans trip worked for a few years but in the end a respray in modern paint was the solution.
All part of ownership experience !!
Geoff
I had a wonder paint treatment done that hastened the pink effect.Sorry but I cannot remember which one.
Annual buffing for the Le Mans trip worked for a few years but in the end a respray in modern paint was the solution.
All part of ownership experience !!
Geoff