Interior Colour code
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Interior Colour code
Trying to find out the interior colour code of my 1990 C4 to do a bit of restoration to the leather.
Under Bonnet and Service book states 'SW' anyone know what this stands for?
Exterior colour is Marine Blue and interior is very similar.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks.
Under Bonnet and Service book states 'SW' anyone know what this stands for?
Exterior colour is Marine Blue and interior is very similar.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks.
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PWW - Can you double check your list of option codes? All of the interior color codes in Adrian's 964 companion book are 3 digits.
By the way, if you haven't bought it, I highly recommend this book (no affiliation).
http://www.bentleypublishers.com/product.htm?code=gp64
By the way, if you haven't bought it, I highly recommend this book (no affiliation).
http://www.bentleypublishers.com/product.htm?code=gp64
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The two digit code found on the label is not decodable. This code such as SW, PG, LB etc etc are used by Porsche to designate the overall the colour combination of the interior or the dominant main colour and the trim colour. The actual colour codes, the three digit codes as found in my books are condensed into this one code, basically to save space on the label.
Unfortunately there is no list from Porsche of the allocation of these two letter codes because they were used for internal use only.
When I started writing my 964 book and later with the 993 and now with the 996 I was only able to gather up information from owners. This information led me to find the same code letters used for different schemes and identifying the actual colours used was a little hit and miss because Porsche used many colours that looked the same, but were actually slightly different. Inotherwards it became too complicated and potentially unreliable.
Having done some leather repairs on my old 964 (now back in Germany) I recommend checking the original against a sample book at the repairers. Also remember that after many years the interior colours will have faded. I was able to match the current shade black of the interior with current black shade from Audi. When the rear cover was done it looked just like it had been there from day one. The Porsche black was too dark and I might add a tad more expensive.
Ciao,
Adrian.
PS: Remember also there are only 676 possible two digit colour combination codes and they don't go in sequence either. My 964 was UL and my 996 is SP.
Unfortunately there is no list from Porsche of the allocation of these two letter codes because they were used for internal use only.
When I started writing my 964 book and later with the 993 and now with the 996 I was only able to gather up information from owners. This information led me to find the same code letters used for different schemes and identifying the actual colours used was a little hit and miss because Porsche used many colours that looked the same, but were actually slightly different. Inotherwards it became too complicated and potentially unreliable.
Having done some leather repairs on my old 964 (now back in Germany) I recommend checking the original against a sample book at the repairers. Also remember that after many years the interior colours will have faded. I was able to match the current shade black of the interior with current black shade from Audi. When the rear cover was done it looked just like it had been there from day one. The Porsche black was too dark and I might add a tad more expensive.
Ciao,
Adrian.
PS: Remember also there are only 676 possible two digit colour combination codes and they don't go in sequence either. My 964 was UL and my 996 is SP.
Last edited by Adrian; 09-04-2006 at 05:24 AM.
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Hi Rob yes I have bought the book and a very good buy as well and the only colour option is listed as a 2 digit SW, hence the posting.
Thanks Adrian that answers the question
I guess I'll have it matched as best I can get it.
Thanks Adrian that answers the question
I guess I'll have it matched as best I can get it.
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Originally Posted by warmfuzzies
PWW.
I phoned my local OPC with the trim code of TU they informed me mine is classic grey and light grey.
And yes it does look that way, without me telling them what it was beforehand.
kevin
I phoned my local OPC with the trim code of TU they informed me mine is classic grey and light grey.
And yes it does look that way, without me telling them what it was beforehand.
kevin
Why not call them back and see if they will supply you the list of the 2-digit interior colour codes because that would be really helpful if you could post them up on Rennlist.
I suspect however that you have to provide your Porsche VIN first. PCGB and their dealers maintain excellent records from the delivery papers, but I don't believe they have the generic code list. I would love to be wrong and to get my hands on such a list.
I am also happy to call them if you PM me their name and phone number.
Ciao,
Adrian.
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Adrian,
I called them 2 years ago, I don't remember providing the VIN, though the OPC had serviced the car once or twice in previous owners hands.
They took literally 10 mins before they, they phoned me back with the code translation, I like my OPC their service dept and techs, though I rarely have any work done there.
I will PM you the phone number.
regards
kevin.
I called them 2 years ago, I don't remember providing the VIN, though the OPC had serviced the car once or twice in previous owners hands.
They took literally 10 mins before they, they phoned me back with the code translation, I like my OPC their service dept and techs, though I rarely have any work done there.
I will PM you the phone number.
regards
kevin.
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Originally Posted by warmfuzzies
Adrian,
I called them 2 years ago, I don't remember providing the VIN, though the OPC had serviced the car once or twice in previous owners hands.
They took literally 10 mins before they, they phoned me back with the code translation, I like my OPC their service dept and techs, though I rarely have any work done there.
I will PM you the phone number.
regards
kevin.
I called them 2 years ago, I don't remember providing the VIN, though the OPC had serviced the car once or twice in previous owners hands.
They took literally 10 mins before they, they phoned me back with the code translation, I like my OPC their service dept and techs, though I rarely have any work done there.
I will PM you the phone number.
regards
kevin.
Ciao,
Adrian.
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PWW..........
I sold 964's when they were new for the local Porsche dealer...........
There was only one standard blue interior available at the time in 1990 (from my 15+ year old memory) and it was "Marine Blue leather"........as previously stated, the codes only refer to the amount of leather trim and different color combo's as related to dash, door sills, console, carpets, seats etc.
Any competent dye specialist or upholstery shop isn't going to really need the color code anyways........they'll mix it to spec and it'll usually be perfect.
Adrian........
Just received your 993 book from Motorbooks today........words fail me man.....it's an exceptional book.....I've already ordered the 964 and SC editions as well.
I sold 964's when they were new for the local Porsche dealer...........
There was only one standard blue interior available at the time in 1990 (from my 15+ year old memory) and it was "Marine Blue leather"........as previously stated, the codes only refer to the amount of leather trim and different color combo's as related to dash, door sills, console, carpets, seats etc.
Any competent dye specialist or upholstery shop isn't going to really need the color code anyways........they'll mix it to spec and it'll usually be perfect.
Adrian........
Just received your 993 book from Motorbooks today........words fail me man.....it's an exceptional book.....I've already ordered the 964 and SC editions as well.
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Originally Posted by YYC930
PWW..........
I sold 964's when they were new for the local Porsche dealer...........
There was only one standard blue interior available at the time in 1990 (from my 15+ year old memory) and it was "Marine Blue leather"........as previously stated, the codes only refer to the amount of leather trim and different color combo's as related to dash, door sills, console, carpets, seats etc.
Any competent dye specialist or upholstery shop isn't going to really need the color code anyways........they'll mix it to spec and it'll usually be perfect.
Adrian........
Just received your 993 book from Motorbooks today........words fail me man.....it's an exceptional book.....I've already ordered the 964 and SC editions as well.
I sold 964's when they were new for the local Porsche dealer...........
There was only one standard blue interior available at the time in 1990 (from my 15+ year old memory) and it was "Marine Blue leather"........as previously stated, the codes only refer to the amount of leather trim and different color combo's as related to dash, door sills, console, carpets, seats etc.
Any competent dye specialist or upholstery shop isn't going to really need the color code anyways........they'll mix it to spec and it'll usually be perfect.
Adrian........
Just received your 993 book from Motorbooks today........words fail me man.....it's an exceptional book.....I've already ordered the 964 and SC editions as well.
Glad you liked the 993 book. It is the best of the three so far. You learn with each one. I will start the 996 early in the new year. Hopefully it will be even better. The 911SC book lacked material, it was a fairly simple car and as I am sure you know Porsche themselves did not write much about this car. Even the maintenance manual was just made up of supplements to the 911 manual, but I did manage to get some new and original stuff. One reviewer said there were 100 pages of previously not published information.
In the 964 book you will find 23 single leather colour choices and 3 of them are Blues. There are also 14 mixed leather colour choices. The only named blue is actually Cobalt blue so one of the others may have been Marine blue. I also believe the other was Navy or Dark blue, but Porsche never got around to being that specific.
Ciao,
Adrian.
PS: I did not include in any of books what I call the "Brain fart colour combinations". These were the weird and wonderful concoctions out of Porsche Exclusiv. There is one car in the book which was of the "Candy colours ilk", but I never really found out if this Pink monstrosity was actually genuine Porsche Exclusiv.
PSS: The 2-digit colour code for the interior started in 1982 with the 911SC. I know the same code system was used up to and including the 996 series.
Last edited by Adrian; 09-04-2006 at 05:49 PM.
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Cheers all.
I guess it must be Marine Blue after all.
Problem I have is passanger side knee pad is split (not leather) so was trying to find a replacement in same colour. Have found some leather ones now so will have these re-coloured to match.
Plus have some scratches on the drivers seat done at the same time oh and handbrake and gear **** where they are worn.
I guess it must be Marine Blue after all.
Problem I have is passanger side knee pad is split (not leather) so was trying to find a replacement in same colour. Have found some leather ones now so will have these re-coloured to match.
Plus have some scratches on the drivers seat done at the same time oh and handbrake and gear **** where they are worn.
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Adrian...........
Yes I forgot..........Cobalt Blue..........one of the most unusual interior blues I have ever seen on an interior.........but quite a beautiful color for an exterior finish.
Have only seen it once..........on 1991 Rubystone Red 964 Targa with a Cobalt Blue interior.
Yes....that is correct.....Rubystone on Cobalt.
Yes I forgot..........Cobalt Blue..........one of the most unusual interior blues I have ever seen on an interior.........but quite a beautiful color for an exterior finish.
Have only seen it once..........on 1991 Rubystone Red 964 Targa with a Cobalt Blue interior.
Yes....that is correct.....Rubystone on Cobalt.
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Originally Posted by warmfuzzies
Adrian,
I called them 2 years ago, I don't remember providing the VIN, though the OPC had serviced the car once or twice in previous owners hands.
They took literally 10 mins before they, they phoned me back with the code translation, I like my OPC their service dept and techs, though I rarely have any work done there.
I will PM you the phone number.
regards
kevin.
I called them 2 years ago, I don't remember providing the VIN, though the OPC had serviced the car once or twice in previous owners hands.
They took literally 10 mins before they, they phoned me back with the code translation, I like my OPC their service dept and techs, though I rarely have any work done there.
I will PM you the phone number.
regards
kevin.
Before this year they had to consult their printed records of the car which contained the interior colour description. Now they can do it online.
However none of the documents provide a direct translation from a 2-digit code into an actual colour combination because only the computer generated label has the 2-digit code. None of the car's other documents have this code.
They are also only able to provide the actual colour descriptions to an owner after he or she provides the VIN. Once you have the description then you can say 2-digit code X = colour combination Y.
Ciao,
Adrian.
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