Ruairidh

Hypothetically speaking - supposing somebody got their first ever speeding ticket recently - somewhat ironically not in a Porsche. In Oklahoma passing through on the way to Texas.

Does anybody know what happens when you get out-of-state points? I was assuming they'd hit the drivers record etc etc and be there for the 3-5 years and seen by insurance companies etc?

In this hypothetical, the numbnut was clocked at 17miles over the turnpike speedlimit and none of the conversations with the court or the local DA have given any indication of how to keep the points off the record.

CraigC

Unfortunately I was in the same boat a few years ago except, I lived in Oklahoma then and got the ticket in Texas. Oklahoma and Texas have an agreement where they share info on tickets etc. Your ticket will show up on your Texas record and the Ins. Co. will find out about it. 2 years ago I got a ticket on my CBR 900 in Oklahoma, $380 for 87 in a 55, they added a speed penalty for excessive speed. My bike gets to 80 in about 4 seconds and goes 165. About 2 months later I got a notice from State Farm that my rate was going up and I now live in Texas.
You cant win, its a racket to make money

FRUNKenstein

Hire a local attorney to have the traffic ticket "amended" to a non-moving violation. It will probably cost you double the regular fine, plus $150 or so for attorney's fees. If you can't locate a local attorney via the internet or yellow pages, call the court and ask for the name of a local attorney. If the court won't give you a name, ask for the prosecutor's office phone number. The prosecutor will give you the name of a local attorney. Remember, traffic tickets are not about public safety, they are about generating revenue. As long as you weren't in an accident or in a school zone, or going some ridiculous speed (for example, 110 in a 70 mph zone), the court will amend the ticket to a non-moving violation (for example, defective equipment or illegal parking). That way, it won't count as points against your license or your insurance. Good luck.

JonSeigel

Your first *ever* speeding ticket? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

Ruairidh

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by JonSeigel:
<strong>Your first *ever* speeding ticket? Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Nope, 'tis true.....whether in Europe or US, this was the first time I've been given a ticket. Been stopped a number of times, but never before written up!

Thanks for the advice guys

Roygarth

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Ruairidh:
Nope, 'tis true.....whether in Europe or US, this was the first time I've been given a ticket. [/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">I can believe this. Until a few years ago you had to try quite hard to get a ticket in the UK. Then the Gov realised that with new technology - cameras - there was money to be made! I managed 20 years with no speeding tickets (this included my lunatic years!), but picked up 2 '50 in a 40' tickets in last 3 years!

Piers

Roygarth

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by kcattorney:
<strong>Hire a local attorney to have the traffic ticket "amended" to a non-moving violation. It will probably cost you double the regular fine, plus $150 or so for attorney's fees. If you can't locate a local attorney via the internet or yellow pages, call the court and ask for the name of a local attorney. If the court won't give you a name, ask for the prosecutor's office phone number. The prosecutor will give you the name of a local attorney. Remember, traffic tickets are not about public safety, they are about generating revenue. As long as you weren't in an accident or in a school zone, or going some ridiculous speed (for example, 110 in a 70 mph zone), the court will amend the ticket to a non-moving violation (for example, defective equipment or illegal parking). That way, it won't count as points against your license or your insurance. Good luck.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">So basically you can choose to give money to insurance company or govenment?!

Is the 'insurance premium increase' likely to be as much as the 'fine increase + lawyer fees'?

Piers

Syd B.

I received a ticket in South Carolina a few years back for doing 58mph in a 55mph zone. I can't recall the fine, but I think it was around $25. My eyes aren't sharp enough to see a 3 mph difference on my speedometer, however, with out- of-state license plates, they know they have you. If you're doing a boatload over the limit, then its open season, but when they start hitting you for 10 or less, its CHA-CHING season.

FRUNKenstein

Ahh, which is cheaper: pay the government or the insurance company? The eternal question. They are both soul-less, money eating machines with a voracious appetite for more and more. My advice (and my rule of thumb for me personally), if it is your first ticket (and you are over 21 years old), go ahead and just pay the fine. One or two points won't make much difference. Same goes if its been 3 or more years since your last ticket. However, if you just had one recently, you'd better have the new one amended. Also, like I said in my first post, if there's an accident involved, if its in a school zone or you are going more than about 30 mph over the limit, they won't amend it to non-moving. So, if you take the points on a ticket and then get a second ticket that they won't amend, then you're going to be stuck paying the insurance company.
Oh by the way, just CYA for me (gotta watch the malpractice premiums,too), I am not a member of the Oklahoma bar.

Ruairidh

kcattorney - thank you so much for the advice and yep, the disclaimer is understood, appreciated and accepted.

None of the factors mentioned - accident/school zone or 30 over apply - it was 92 on a 75mph limited turnpike. And I'm over 21 and have never had any points, so I may go ahead and pay this.

Again, thanks to all.

horst

I stupidly slipped on glare ice behind an ATTORNEY driving his newly repainted Caddy. Airbags did not deploy, and there was 0 damage to my car. I got the guy to back up 200' to return to the bodyshop owned by a friend, and since there was no apparent damage to the caddy, I asked Chuck to check it ou, and if there was any damage, just send the bill to my insurance Co. Turns out he found $200.00 worth damage to the bumper shocks of the caddy. Followed instructions. Next bill for my insurance reflected a whopping premium- for the next three years! The next ticket I got, I hired a lawyer who copped to an amended charge of defective equipment or some such. Bottom line was a hell of a lot cheaper.

JonSeigel

Horst:

Why didn't you just pay him the $200.00 and leave insurance out of it?

Ruairidh

Does anyone know whether Oklahoma and Michigan share information on tickets?

horst

John: Because I was stupid