964 Factory Manuals
04-23-2005 | 03:17 PM
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"I have made my own PST2 clone that works on all Porsche cars and is able to run the same software." - keithart -
You really mean you copied Porsche's copyright protected software.
There are some who are selling laptop versions of the PST2 which is a copyright violation.
You really mean you copied Porsche's copyright protected software.
There are some who are selling laptop versions of the PST2 which is a copyright violation.
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04-23-2005 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by keithart
Funny you should mention a PST2. I have made my own PST2 clone that works on all Porsche cars and is able to run the same software. It was a bit tricky to get all the hardware but it cost about $3000 which is less than half of what Porsche used to sell them for or about 10% of what Porshce is asking for the new PST3 or PIWIS as it is called. Dealers are quoting $28,000 plus $1,000 per month subscription for a new PIWIS that they don't even have in hand to sell yet.
04-23-2005 | 06:41 PM
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The ebay link provided by Indycam is a good example of property thief just like copying
Porsche manuals for resale!
"I thought PST2 was for 1996 to current. Yours works on pre-1996 Porsches?" - Smokin -
The PST2 interfaces with all Porsche cars with onboard diagnostics and the OBDII
connector or the early cylindrical connector.
Porsche manuals for resale!
"I thought PST2 was for 1996 to current. Yours works on pre-1996 Porsches?" - Smokin -
The PST2 interfaces with all Porsche cars with onboard diagnostics and the OBDII
connector or the early cylindrical connector.
04-24-2005 | 03:46 AM
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Maybe Rennlist, as a group, and possibly other sites as well (like Pelican) could make an orchestrated effort to lobby Porsche for better support for the older cars. I mean, seriously, what's next? No parts?
04-24-2005 | 10:18 AM
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Why do we care so much about protecting Porsche when they don't seem to care about us ( owners of older modles) by making available copies if the workshop manuals even at their insane current retail price of $1500 for the 964 manuals?
I don't know that anyone is headstrong on protecting Porsche, rather, they recognize that there are copyright and intellectual property laws.
04-24-2005 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by keithart
Porsche isn't selling the manuals at any price. I am very sure that 90% of the buyers of the manual copies would rather buy an actual factory set but they are not available.
