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I'm having my engine rebuild by local OPC currently (actually, not started yet, but soon within this week) The technician told me my valve covers may be corroded and need to be replaced. He said these covers are very expensive at OPC, more than $3000 a set, so he suggested me to get it outside. I checked some websites and found these covers are really expensive, although cheaper than OPC, still need around $1900. But I also read some articles on PCNA that these covers cost $300~400 a set.
I'm really confused what's the correct price for these covers? Why there are such a big price difference? The outside price I was quoted are part numbers 964 105 115 02 (upper) and 964 105 116 02 (lower). Are these part numbers correct for my C4? Just hard to believe four metal covers cost so much...
I also found numbers 964 105 115 01 and 964 105 116 01, which are also valve covers. What's the difference between these numbers?
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I'm really confused what's the correct price for these covers? Why there are such a big price difference? The outside price I was quoted are part numbers 964 105 115 02 (upper) and 964 105 116 02 (lower). Are these part numbers correct for my C4? Just hard to believe four metal covers cost so much...
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I also found numbers 964 105 115 01 and 964 105 116 01, which are also valve covers. What's the difference between these numbers?
Thanks!
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Hi Patrick
The 96410511502 is an Upper Cam Cover and the 96410511602 is a Lower Cam Cover. The Upper Cam Covers here in the UK cost around £400 for the pair from an OPC and the Lower ones are even worse at around £700 for the pair. Porsche original covers are Dealer only items here in the UK which is why they are so expensive - I was lucky, I got a pair of upper covers for £40 (brandnew!) and I have recently purchased a new one (allegedly) on Ebay for around 100Euros. I only need one lower one as I have a slight leak on one side only and having had so many problems finding one at a good price have given up trying to find a pair. There are some on Ebay at the moment and can be found here (purchase at your own risk of course as I have...
). This link seems to include the gasket set as well...
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=7926917213
Hope that helps!
BTW, I don't know what the -01 numbers are....maybe RS items? Somebody with a parts catalogue can tell you...
The 96410511502 is an Upper Cam Cover and the 96410511602 is a Lower Cam Cover. The Upper Cam Covers here in the UK cost around £400 for the pair from an OPC and the Lower ones are even worse at around £700 for the pair. Porsche original covers are Dealer only items here in the UK which is why they are so expensive - I was lucky, I got a pair of upper covers for £40 (brandnew!) and I have recently purchased a new one (allegedly) on Ebay for around 100Euros. I only need one lower one as I have a slight leak on one side only and having had so many problems finding one at a good price have given up trying to find a pair. There are some on Ebay at the moment and can be found here (purchase at your own risk of course as I have...
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http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...tem=7926917213
Hope that helps!
BTW, I don't know what the -01 numbers are....maybe RS items? Somebody with a parts catalogue can tell you...
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Originally Posted by Patrick L
I'm really confused what's the correct price for these covers? Why there are such a big price difference
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any decent cylinder head shop can tig in the corrosion and then skim back .
if they could do me a vw vr6 head for less than 100 quid , should be a reasonable price for 4 covers !!![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
will check pet for you , but numbers are probobly left upper , left lower , right upper , right lower .
if they could do me a vw vr6 head for less than 100 quid , should be a reasonable price for 4 covers !!
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will check pet for you , but numbers are probobly left upper , left lower , right upper , right lower .
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I am in the same situation with needing one badly (lower driver, left, side)... but the other ones are on their way out as well... and have not been able to find a decent set for a good price...
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the problem is not only corrosion, but also that they go 'out of true' over a period of years. 9M tried to seal mine twice to no avail, no corrosion just didn't seal properly again. New gaskets og course used each time as well.
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hello Pat,
if your valve covers do not leak now chances are that they are fine. as far as the 01 these are the ealier type that are made of magnesium and are lighter in weight. the 02 which i have seen and held are made of alumium and are heavier and much better quality. call msroadrace in the states. i was at the ventura car show and they wanted 100 dollars apiece for lower ones, they were new and nice, the only question that i hade was why was that little diamond trade make that porcshe uses ground away????????
if your valve covers do not leak now chances are that they are fine. as far as the 01 these are the ealier type that are made of magnesium and are lighter in weight. the 02 which i have seen and held are made of alumium and are heavier and much better quality. call msroadrace in the states. i was at the ventura car show and they wanted 100 dollars apiece for lower ones, they were new and nice, the only question that i hade was why was that little diamond trade make that porcshe uses ground away????????
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Originally Posted by Christer
that they go 'out of true' over a period of years. 9M tried to seal mine twice to no avail, no corrosion just didn't seal properly again. New gaskets og course used each time as well.
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SuperTec Performance in California will powder coat the outsides and belt sand the back sides for $15USD/each (or just flatten them for $7USD/each). Any local machine shop should be capable of doing this.
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I have the same problem and my mechanic told me to get a new pair long time ago but I thought it will leak after a good 18 to 24 months and by then I need to adjust the valave and a new set of gaskets anyway so I did not bother.
Patrick, you only need the bottom ones as they are likely to leak!
Jaime is right! if Robert Linton can make them, I wish to order a set as well.
Dutchcrunch, please please let us have more information about " Msroadrace".
Much appreciated!!
Eddie
Patrick, you only need the bottom ones as they are likely to leak!
Jaime is right! if Robert Linton can make them, I wish to order a set as well.
Dutchcrunch, please please let us have more information about " Msroadrace".
Much appreciated!!
Eddie
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JasonAndreas, 9M did not recommend trying to get a cam cover back into true - especially as the error in mine was not detectable. Hopefully my 'new' cover should be arriving from Germany any time soon - I need a about a liter every 2k miles and Castrol Formula RS 10W-60 is expensive (and hard to find buts another story..)
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Christer, did 9M give any reason for not running your valve covers on a belt sander? I'll admit its not something I thought of/about until reading it online (even after spending way too much time polishing mine). In any case, if your still waiting for new valve covers from Germany it might still be worth spending a few minutes in a local machine shop to have the valve covers resurfaced (if its anything close to $7USD over in England like it is here). With your non-stock exhaust system all you'll need is 10mm socket to get access and if you jack up only one side of the car you won't need to drain your oil (from experience you'll only spill enough to lightly soak a few paper towels). Every engine builder I've spoken with over here (4 so far) has suggested belt sanding the valve covers while/when I do my valve job.