Very interesting 964 site... please check it out!
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Pleas give a moment of attention for JW Hubbers his 964 site. He put a lot of work in it, and also the latest Nurburgring pictures form April the 3th with nice cars are on it.
He helped me scanning the Autoweek article, but more much much more to discover on his site!
go to www.porsche964.nl or www.jwhubbers.nl
Thanks guys
He helped me scanning the Autoweek article, but more much much more to discover on his site!
go to www.porsche964.nl or www.jwhubbers.nl
Thanks guys
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Thanks Arjan
www.porsche964.nl has a decent collection of reviews by now. If you get tired of reading about 964s and other Porsches, you can continue at my other site. If you're really bored you might want to look through my trip reports and some general articles about the Ring.
Enjoy,
JW
PS: The racing pictures Arjan mentions are here
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www.porsche964.nl has a decent collection of reviews by now. If you get tired of reading about 964s and other Porsches, you can continue at my other site. If you're really bored you might want to look through my trip reports and some general articles about the Ring.
Enjoy,
JW
PS: The racing pictures Arjan mentions are here
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P.S. JW, what's the password for the RingBunny secret area?
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Seriously, the password serves two purposes:
1) It gives me a means to control bandwidth usage: I give people a password, and they give me 10 euros/year that goes toward covering my hosting fee. FYI: I get about 250.000 hits every month, and about 35GB of traffic every month...
2) It gives me a means to control who gets access to videos and pictures that might not be 100% compatible with the wishes of the administration of the Ring. I.e., videoing is no longer allowed, but sometimes the Bunny gets sent some footage, and it can't always verify that the material predates the videoban. Those vids end up on the R-rated page.
Send me an email or PM if you want access
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JW
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What a fine site! The laps are great fun and the first time I get to see the Ring from the track. What does it cost to drive there? Do you need anything more than car & helmet? Joe W.
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Joe W, may be I may answer your question. Everly lap you drive, it will cost 14 Euro's [17,5 Us $]
The more laps you buy in advance, the cheaper it will be. But..... you can only drive one lap at the time, then you have to order in line for the next lap. Most people let their car cool down because of the hard work the engine needs to do in the Hills.
A halmet is not neccesairy but it's better for your self. It's a public, one way road without speed limit. If you have a accident [seriouse one] the police will show up and make a rapport for you and the insurance.
The more laps you buy in advance, the cheaper it will be. But..... you can only drive one lap at the time, then you have to order in line for the next lap. Most people let their car cool down because of the hard work the engine needs to do in the Hills.
A halmet is not neccesairy but it's better for your self. It's a public, one way road without speed limit. If you have a accident [seriouse one] the police will show up and make a rapport for you and the insurance.
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Originally posted by JoeW
What a fine site! The laps are great fun and the first time I get to see the Ring from the track. What does it cost to drive there? Do you need anything more than car & helmet? Joe W.
What a fine site! The laps are great fun and the first time I get to see the Ring from the track. What does it cost to drive there? Do you need anything more than car & helmet? Joe W.
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The cost of driving there.... Well, that depends. To preserve what little sanity I have I've never really calculated how much a weekend costs
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Basically it's
- getting there/back
- staying there (about 30 euros/night incl. breakfast)
- eating/drinking (depends heavily on the amount of beer/Coke consumed)
- access to the track: about 14 euros/lap, but you can also buy 5-lap tickets (much cheaper, but only valid on the day you buy the ticket), 6-lap and 12-lap tickets (valid during the rest of the season), and a Jahreskarte (700 euros, valid for the entire season). There's also a half Jahreskarte: you buy it in August for 350 euros, and it's valid for the rest of the season.
- fuel (5 to 6 liters per lap), brake pads, brake discs, tyrewear
And of course the cost of buying a Ring-sticker, Ring-books and Ring-DVD's
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Additional costs when you have a crash/breakdown can be:
- recovery fee if you break down/crash on the track (175 euros)
- cleaning fee if your vehicle loses fluids on the track
- a very hefty bill if you have a crash that necessitates closing the track
- the price of some shiny new armco if you go off and hit some
- an hourly rate for the time spent by track marshalls attending to a crash
Cheers,
JW
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Oops, forgot to react to the helmet thing:
Helmet: it's not mandatory, but it's wise. Without pushing it I reach 230km/h two times on the track, in places followed by a rather difficult section.
Even if you wouldn't make any mistakes yourself, there's always the chance of a serious accident because of someone else's fault. For example, most of the bends are blind; you never know if someone has just crashed when you come through that corner at full tilt.
Then there's the occasional loss of oil/coolant, and someone is always the first to find it.
Another good reason to bring a helmet is that more and more people will not take passengers if they don't wear a helmet. These people (not coincidentally) are usually the better, faster drivers, providing the more entertaining rides...
Cheers,
JW
Helmet: it's not mandatory, but it's wise. Without pushing it I reach 230km/h two times on the track, in places followed by a rather difficult section.
Even if you wouldn't make any mistakes yourself, there's always the chance of a serious accident because of someone else's fault. For example, most of the bends are blind; you never know if someone has just crashed when you come through that corner at full tilt.
Then there's the occasional loss of oil/coolant, and someone is always the first to find it.
Another good reason to bring a helmet is that more and more people will not take passengers if they don't wear a helmet. These people (not coincidentally) are usually the better, faster drivers, providing the more entertaining rides...
Cheers,
JW
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I'm another long term fan of JW's fantastic site & the nordschleife - you can see me going round Brunchen in my avatar <--- ![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Keep up the good work JW, i love reading the trip reports, i'm sure we'll meet for a beer at the Pistenklause one day !
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Keep up the good work JW, i love reading the trip reports, i'm sure we'll meet for a beer at the Pistenklause one day !
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Thanks Greg. I seem to recall that you'll be at the Ring on July 4/5? I'll be there too on Sun evening & Monday too
And since Sabine closed the Fuchsröhre, the Pistenklause seems to be the default choice for dinner
The pic for my avatar was taken round the corner from yours: going down to Pflanzgarten from Eiskurve.
Cheers,
JW
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And since Sabine closed the Fuchsröhre, the Pistenklause seems to be the default choice for dinner
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The pic for my avatar was taken round the corner from yours: going down to Pflanzgarten from Eiskurve.
Cheers,
JW
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Originally posted by JW Hubbers
Thanks Greg. I seem to recall that you'll be at the Ring on July 4/5? I'll be there too on Sun evening & Monday too
And since Sabine closed the Fuchsröhre, the Pistenklause seems to be the default choice for dinner
The pic for my avatar was taken round the corner from yours: going down to Pflanzgarten from Eiskurve.
Cheers,
JW
Thanks Greg. I seem to recall that you'll be at the Ring on July 4/5? I'll be there too on Sun evening & Monday too
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And since Sabine closed the Fuchsröhre, the Pistenklause seems to be the default choice for dinner
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The pic for my avatar was taken round the corner from yours: going down to Pflanzgarten from Eiskurve.
Cheers,
JW
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I didn't know Sabine closed the Fuchsröhre
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I recognise the spot your avatar pic is taken from. There is sometimes a good bratwurst selling van parked there on the hotter weekends!
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