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They’re solid rubber plugs, with a conical shape on the underside that helps ensure that the water spray from below drips off and away from the underside.
Yes that’s it, unfortunately has to be riveted on...
Part# 91154240303 and 91154240403
Originally Posted by r-mm
wait so are the plugs solid or draining type?
Definitely solid, sacrificed a dead one to prove it.
Originally Posted by Foxman
They’re solid rubber plugs, with a conical shape on the underside that helps ensure that the water spray from below drips off and away from the underside.
Thanks for sharing that experience. I too have felt that the carpet on the sills is completely dry which discouraged me from considering the door seals as source of leak. Did you figure out where the water was flowing that it evaded your detection as a damp carpet?
As the velvet strip was perished water could get past that on to the door seal.
It then run down the door seal at the A pillar, right the way down to the sill.
Because the door seal was old, hard and crushed, it allowed water past to enter the cabin.
I believe it then run under the door trim strip which is screwed to the sill area.
Somehow running underneath the carpet and into the footwell.
It was only when I stripped out the sound deadening and carpet, from the footwell and sill area, that I noticed it.
Once I knew where it was coming in, you could clearly see the path it took as it had washed away the glue to leave a track mark.
Water will always take the path of least resistance...
Thanks this is great information. Wow I am surprised to hear that velvet strip is riveted. I’m not sure my needs replacing but I’m curious to know if it uses a somewhat common blind rivet one can get from McMaster Carr or similar or is it something else?
Thanks this is great information. Wow I am surprised to hear that velvet strip is riveted. I’m not sure my needs replacing but I’m curious to know if it uses a somewhat common blind rivet one can get from McMaster Carr or similar or is it something else?
My Indy recently replaced the felts on my 964 and it stopped the leaks by the passenger door. I’m not exactly sure of the process, but don’t be daunted by the rivets. Great input from 964George.
What I don't like about the rivets on the felts is I can't think of a way to remove the old ones without having half the rivet fall into the body of the car never to be recovered.
What I don't like about the rivets on the felts is I can't think of a way to remove the old ones without having half the rivet fall into the body of the car never to be recovered.
This.....
Mine need replacing but I've been putting it off for this reason (among others)
The thought of drilling out the rivets filled me with dread as I had visions of the drill bit going straight through the roof!!!
But to be honest it wasn't that bad at all and no additional air holes were created
Unfortunately drilling out the old rivets, will leave you with some shrapnel inside, but there is nothing you can do about that. but I've not heard anything rattling.
I think the parts catalog lists the rivet size required, but I used 3.2 x 8mm aluminum rivets by Rapid, to fit metal thickness of 2-4mm, even came with a drill bit which I used to drill out the old ones.
You can get these on Amazon pretty cheap.
Installing velvet strips is easy, I used a standard hand rivet gun and just worked from the bottom up just taking my time and getting it aligned.
If you check your velvet strips and find they are split, then they need replacing as there is a good chance they'll let water past.
Hope this helps, just giving back for all the sound advice I've received on this forum.
Thanks for this description George, much appreciated. I don't see any visible splits in my velvet strips. How would you describe the new seals, are they plush and squishy or basically flat with no give when pressed? Hard to tell if mine have gone hard like the sunroof velvet did or basically okay.
It rained a decent amount last night and I'm bone dry inside. I need to get it on the highway in the rain to see if this is an in-motion problem. Or maybe no problem at all and rob was right, the water just hung out for 4 months (!?) but its hard for me to wrap my head around not seeing any condensation on windows, smelling any skunkyness etc.
Rained a bunch last nite. Made a point of taking the car on the highway in the middle of it then parking outside. This morning the rear is dry. But. The frunk has some water!? I replaced the seal and cleaned out the front drain weeps when I did so this needs further examination.
pic taken much later in the day. There was more water in the am.
Its a new seal. My spider sense is its coming in around the latch.
Is the bonnet seal from a Porsche main dealer or an indie?
To be honest though, both are not great!
They just don’t seem to fit right...
The top part that is supposed to be pressed against the actual bonnet to form the water tight seal, appears oversized so will stick out.
You can see it in the panel gap between the bonnet and front wing/fender.
If water lands on the part of the seal sticking out then it’s game over as it’s going to get into the frunk.
Water will also run down the edge of the bonnet until it hits the parts of seal sticking out, then it’ll run inside.
Ive gone through 3 new bonnet seals trying to get one that fits right
Still not 100%...