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This is really great thread, thanks for starting it, Anthony! I checked and did not find the sticker on my 91 C4.
--Arjay
Porsche applied the stickers in the 80’s up until 89. They stopped in 1990 although I don’t know why. What’s interesting (I had no idea) is that they started up again in 1994 but I don’t believe they continued after 1994.
OT but Mercedes also applied these stickers in the 80’s and 90’s and I believe they stopped in the early 2000’s.
It’s too bad the stopped as it’s a very easy way to confirm if the body panels are original on the cars that had them.
Porsche applied the stickers in the 80’s up until 89. They stopped in 1990 although I don’t know why. What’s interesting (I had no idea) is that they started up again in 1994 but I don’t believe they continued after 1994.
OT but Mercedes also applied these stickers in the 80’s and 90’s and I believe they stopped in the early 2000’s.
It’s too bad the stopped as it’s a very easy way to confirm if the body panels are original on the cars that had them.
agree it would have been a great test/indicator that the panels are original. thanks, Marine Blue!
another topic on Full Leather 964s. I read somewhere that the dash was also covered n leather in the early years (89-90) but then Porsche went away with it since there is a lot of cracked leather under warranty. Is this true?
Speaking of Leather, has anyone ever seen this? A leather wrapped Turn Signal Stalk, apparently factory. This was on a car being sold by a friend of my brother's a few years back in SoCal.
agree it would have been a great test/indicator that the panels are original. thanks, Marine Blue!
another topic on Full Leather 964s. I read somewhere that the dash was also covered n leather in the early years (89-90) but then Porsche went away with it since there is a lot of cracked leather under warranty. Is this true?
From what I have read in various PCA articles, Porsche stopped offering leather dashes in the US only starting in the late 80’s due to warranty issues. I believe the option was reintroduced with the 993 although I’ve only seen them on Turbo and Turbo S models.
Originally Posted by Vegas993
Speaking of Leather, has anyone ever seen this? A leather wrapped Turn Signal Stalk, apparently factory. This was on a car being sold by a friend of my brother's a few years back in SoCal.
Porsche was willing to apply leather to pretty much every surface of the interior including switchgear. My 90 928 GT had leather on the seat actuator *****, seatbelts and several other areas. It’s extremely rare though.
This was a federal requirement since 1984 for any manufacturer who did not supply a qualified alarm system on their entire line of cars. Congress passed an act to designate original from replacement parts to prevent theft rings from disposing of used parts easily. In 90 all 911's had a factory alarm standard making Porsche's exempt from this requirement. In 94 the speedster was released which was not supplied with an alarm so the requirement was once again mandated.
AFAIK full leather was an option on the C2/C4 and full leather dashes were available at a considerable cost so not many opted for it. AFAIK 91-92 turbos came with full leather standard and became an option on the 94 turbo. Although some 94 T's came through with leather consoles and door pulls without any option code. I am 'assuming' based on cars I have seen that this was for those who opted for the full leather seating and supple leather seat surfaces. The problem with the leather dash and rear shelf is owners would not feed the leather and the heat from the cars sitting in the sun would cause them to shrink. You can have whatever you wanted if you were willing to pay. Bob Linton's 89 turbo (most heavily optioned Porsche to date AFAIK) had everything and I mean everything including the gas filler flap covered in leather. The gage faces were leather with silk screened lettering. It is an amazing thing to see in person.
Let's move onto paint types and codes. Here is a copy of the paints used by Porsche. it is in german but I think everyone gets the idea. I believe there are some errors. They don't list my cobalt as a pearlescent paint which it most definitely is. It shifts more than any pearlescent paint I have seen. yet they list my amazon as a pearlescent paint which doesn't shift nearly as much. Otherwise it gives you an idea of what paint colors were offered and when and if it was solid color non metallic (U = Uni), Metallic (M) Pearl color (P) Water based or born paint (W) Single stage (1= Einschichtverfahren) base\clear 2 stage process (2 = Zweischichtverfahren)
Sorry for the downloads but this link should work.
Let's move onto paint types and codes. Here is a copy of the paints used by Porsche. it is in german but I think everyone gets the idea. I believe there are some errors. They don't list my cobalt as a pearlescent paint which it most definitely is. It shifts more than any pearlescent paint I have seen. yet they list my amazon as a pearlescent paint which doesn't shift nearly as much. Otherwise it gives you an idea of what paint colors were offered and when and if it was solid color non metallic (U = Uni), Metallic (M) Pearl color (P) Water based or born paint (W) Single stage (1= Einschichtverfahren) base\clear 2 stage process (2 = Zweischichtverfahren)
Sorry for the downloads but this link should work.
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