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Old 09-24-2019, 10:40 AM
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Lines looks great on the car with in on. Was honestly a skeptic when I saw the title. Looks good though.
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Originally Posted by 911 jared
Thanks! 356 race cars and long hood 911s have been venting decklids for years. I dont see these tiny holes causing an issue. But thank you for your concern and input.
In those cars, the vent is the intake via negative air pressure inside the trunk being created by the fan. In your car, the wing is the intake. My concern would be that the vents could allow air to flow in the wing and out the vents, instead of in the wing and through the fan to the top of the motor. This would also reduce downforce, as noted by another poster mentioned.
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Killer results , love the small details of your car and this is just another fine example of your imagination and execution.
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this car makes all the downforce it needs when hard parked at cars and coffee.
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Originally Posted by tjb616
In those cars, the vent is the intake via negative air pressure inside the trunk being created by the fan. In your car, the wing is the intake. My concern would be that the vents could allow air to flow in the wing and out the vents, instead of in the wing and through the fan to the top of the motor. This would also reduce downforce, as noted by another poster mentioned.
This has me curious about airflow. In a car without a wing, fresh air enters through the high pressure area over the grille, some of it is taken in by the intake, while some of it is captured by the fan and pulled over the engine. That hot air then flows down and back across the headers and out from under the car. Is that correct?

The same happens with a tail, except that the air over the grille is at higher pressure because of the Bernouilli effect, resulting in cooler air to the intake fan.

So it seems putting holes under the wing would likely result in some inefficiency, because you'd be fighting against the fan, with some of the high pressure air entering through the grille and exiting directly through the holes/vents.

By contrast, putting holes in the decklid of a car without a wing doesn't cause the same issue, because the air is generally higher pressure across the entire decklid.
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Originally Posted by tjb616
In those cars, the vent is the intake via negative air pressure inside the trunk being created by the fan. In your car, the wing is the intake. My concern would be that the vents could allow air to flow in the wing and out the vents, instead of in the wing and through the fan to the top of the motor. This would also reduce downforce, as noted by another poster mentioned.
yeah i guess i ruined it. Appreciate the feed back.

Originally Posted by DobermanDad
Lines looks great on the car with in on. Was honestly a skeptic when I saw the title. Looks good though.
thank you!

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This has me curious about airflow. In a car without a wing, fresh air enters through the high pressure area over the grille, some of it is taken in by the intake, while some of it is captured by the fan and pulled over the engine. That hot air then flows down and back across the headers and out from under the car. Is that correct?

The same happens with a tail, except that the air over the grille is at higher pressure because of the Bernouilli effect, resulting in cooler air to the intake fan.

So it seems putting holes under the wing would likely result in some inefficiency, because you'd be fighting against the fan, with some of the high pressure air entering through the grille and exiting directly through the holes/vents.

By contrast, putting holes in the decklid of a car without a wing doesn't cause the same issue, because the air is generally higher pressure across the entire decklid.
Yup. Thanks for the info. Appreciate the feed back.

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Killer results , love the small details of your car and this is just another fine example of your imagination and execution.
much appreciated thanks!

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this car makes all the downforce it needs when hard parked at cars and coffee.
total ricer right? Next is its too low. And why did you put Japanese crap on it.
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It's OK, dude. Your car is gorgeous. Build to please yourself, but posting on the technical forum is going to invite technical comments.
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Old 09-24-2019, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BLACK3.2
It's OK, dude. Your car is gorgeous. Build to please yourself, but posting on the technical forum is going to invite technical comments.
Thank you! And yes totally understand. I invite the technical comments and appreciate your input.
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Originally Posted by tjb616
In those cars, the vent is the intake via negative air pressure inside the trunk being created by the fan. In your car, the wing is the intake. My concern would be that the vents could allow air to flow in the wing and out the vents, instead of in the wing and through the fan to the top of the motor. This would also reduce downforce, as noted by another poster mentioned.
But this car probably doesn't have the undertray on. So the aero probably already can't figure out where to pull air out or push air in. maybe if there were arrows as a suggestion it might help. Maybe the dimples going "in" suggests the air go in? Maybe velocity stacks would help.
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I think seeing that Jared is adorable might help right?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Originally Posted by JesusFast
I think seeing that Jared is adorable might help right?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.
Hahaha no selfie sticks.
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What you accomplished here is phenomenal, Jared! Love it!

I was also trying to get a wing figured out. Bought a wing, but realized it's an extended motorsport wing.
Still have not decided how to move forward.

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Originally Posted by 9SIX4-C4
What you accomplished here is phenomenal, Jared! Love it!

I was also trying to get a wing figured out. Bought a wing, but realized it's an extended motorsport wing.
Still have not decided how to move forward.

That's a dope looking wing, man. You should rock that.
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Originally Posted by 9SIX4-C4
What you accomplished here is phenomenal, Jared! Love it!

I was also trying to get a wing figured out. Bought a wing, but realized it's an extended motorsport wing.
Still have not decided how to move forward.

Looks sweet! Mount it up.
Is that a DPE whale tail??
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Old 09-25-2019, 10:45 AM
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Have you had it tested in a wind tunnel?


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