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Total (all years and all drivetrain & transmissions, but excluding Turbos/RSA/specialty versions) added up we get:
= 5,432 coupes
= 5,799 cabrios
= 1,252 targas
It would be nice to get a breakdown further to separate C2 vs. C4 models and Manuals vs. Tiptronics.
Agreed. I don't think this level of data exists but that would be awesome. Also, I think the accuracy of the numbers in Adrian's book have been questioned numerous times on here.
Also, I think the accuracy of the numbers in Adrian's book have been questioned numerous times on here.
Adrian prepared the book based on information from the factory and PCNA that he received at the time, some of which was inconsistent and subsequently turned out to be incorrect. As we have seen from the inaccurate information contained in Certificates of Authenticity supplied by PCNA, 100% precisely accurate information is probably an unattainable goal at this point due to inadequate record keeping by the factory and PCNA.
A search of the 964 forum will uncover a multitude of threads discussing this topic with the majority highlighting the difficulties in accurately determining the production numbers....even Adrian's numbers are considered close but not the definitive on the subject. Many more knowledgeable people here discuss it in the numerous threads. The belief is the production numbers are less.
76 in the World. All years all colors all countries
Everything else is uber expensive $$
3reasons to explain this
The model count in terms of M001 & M002 is a combination of both models.
Lack of DOT approval ..in US market.
Lack of Show & Display option..in US. The US got
”America RS”. A C2 hardy a cup car variant 701 produced....10X the number of 964RS.
Now that the 25 year rule is in effect ...a golden opportunity exists.
There isn't a single correct number in his book. Except for the exception of the 1 off America GS. Great resource but a lot of mistakes. To start he counts all vin numbers from 001-060 as being actual cars. In fact all vins listed both US and ROW begin with 061. His final numbers are correct so you can figure out actual numbers by subtracting 60 for each MY and VIN. I have been researching this for years and set Adrian straight regarding the actual number of 94 turbos produced which was only 406 for the US and these included the 39 flachbau's and 17 package cars. In actuality only 335 were imported to the US in stock form. Even Red book has these numbers incorrect. If you read edition #2 of the Porsche classic parts catalog they reaffirm what I learned over 10 years ago and have been trying to correct the misinformation out there since. Although my numbers are as accurate as I can be there are still issues with the 718 coded cars which switch vin from a prior year to the following year. There is speculation that many of these have been double counted but I haven't been able to determine what were and what weren't. He also misses some other rarities that Norbert has listed in his books and registries.
Actual US coupes both C2/C4 tip and manual are 5106 not the 5432 he has noted. A total of 26,764 coupes not including RS/RSA or WB cars were made. Porsche is very tight lipped regarding the actual numbers of tip[s vs manuals and C2 vs C4's made but as you can see it isn't all that many and we can say even if it were 50/50 the first year 1989 were all C4's.
There isn't a single correct number in his book. Except for the exception of the 1 off America GS. Great resource but a lot of mistakes. To start he counts all vin numbers from 001-060 as being actual cars. In fact all vins listed both US and ROW begin with 061. His final numbers are correct so you can figure out actual numbers by subtracting 60 for each MY and VIN. I have been researching this for years and set Adrian straight regarding the actual number of 94 turbos produced which was only 406 for the US and these included the 39 flachbau's and 17 package cars. In actuality only 335 were imported to the US in stock form. Even Red book has these numbers incorrect. If you read edition #2 of the Porsche classic parts catalog they reaffirm what I learned over 10 years ago and have been trying to correct the misinformation out there since. Although my numbers are as accurate as I can be there are still issues with the 718 coded cars which switch vin from a prior year to the following year. There is speculation that many of these have been double counted but I haven't been able to determine what were and what weren't. He also misses some other rarities that Norbert has listed in his books and registries.
Actual US coupes both C2/C4 tip and manual are 5106 not the 5432 he has noted. A total of 26,764 coupes not including RS/RSA or WB cars were made. Porsche is very tight lipped regarding the actual numbers of tip[s vs manuals and C2 vs C4's made but as you can see it isn't all that many and we can say even if it were 50/50 the first year 1989 were all C4's.
I can’t tell where I read the following I just don’t remember🤷🏻*♂️. What I read was approximately 15% of our cars had the Tip in it. Now how accurate that is I have no flipping idea so take it for what its worth.
I can’t tell where I read the following I just don’t remember🤷🏻*♂️. What I read was approximately 15% of our cars had the Tip in it. Now how accurate that is I have no flipping idea so take it for what its worth.
I’d like to know if anyone has any guesses on the split between C4’s and C2’s. Was it close to 50/50? It seems like C2’s are more scarce but I guess aside from the numbers Anthony provided, there isn’t any other solid info.
I've seen this before and even if the numbers are 100% correct they are probably close. It's interesting to think that a C2 manual MY92 probably is as scarce as s RS-92. :-)
Your information and knowledge is incredible. For the 1994 C4 Turbo Look, is 254 correct?
Mr. Wolfe
My understanding is 254 came to the US and 13 went to Canada. World wide production including LHD and RHD vehicles should be 1352 in total making it more rare than the turbo 3.6.
05-30-2019, 10:03 PM
964 Production Numbers
