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Old 01-29-2018, 04:07 PM
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My White C4 was once located in an area known for high winds. When I bought the car, the driver door had evidently been wrenched past it’s stay point, I imagine by a strong wind gust. I had the door damage fixed and fitted a door reinforcement. Unfortunately, the clicking has started again. I assume this is because the actual metal in the door interior is torn.

Ive seen a repair where someone has cut open the door, cut out the torn portion then welded in a complete section from another door. That may be the final option albeit I don’t think that many donor doors are around in my neck of the woods.

Another option is in this post http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...g-welding.html. It seems intuitively easy. Have any 964 owners tried it?
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Just thinking about this makes my belly ache.
Old 01-29-2018, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dukmon
Just thinking about this makes my belly ache.
Me too, but having just sold a C4 with smooth closing doors I can't live long term with the clicking in this car.
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I’m looking into developing a solution to this. My drivers door is much like the hole in the last photo.
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Mine pings and pops all at once pretty badly. My shop says it's the pin. It feels terrible.


I have commissioned a repair and hope things are back to normal very soon.
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I was just reading an article on Pelican about the reinforced catch pinging. I think I need to have a closer look and see what the problem is.
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This might be worth a read too. I found it while trying to figure out what the issue was with mine.

https://rennlist.com/forums/964-foru...ent-guide.html
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Are there other sources for reinforcing plates? Seems like a good idea as long as your in there.

And all this time I'd been thinking click was just part of gizmo's function, to help door stay open.
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Originally Posted by dlpalumbo
Are there other sources for reinforcing plates? Seems like a good idea as long as your in there.

And all this time I'd been thinking click was just part of gizmo's function, to help door stay open.
Looking at the various threads the first step is to find out what is clicking and why. It could be the A pillar attachment, the attachment in the door, the stay mechanism or a mix of issues. I'm sure it's not the A pillar in mine but I don't actually know if the metal in the door is torn or not.
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So folks are assuming the clicking is torn metal moving against each edge as the door opens and the metal flexes. Thus the horror story pictures.

I will take a much closer look.
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Originally Posted by dlpalumbo
So folks are assuming the clicking is torn metal moving against each edge as the door opens and the metal flexes.
993s normally break at the hinge/pin on the a-pillar and the 964 suffers mostly from torn metal inside the door.
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Originally Posted by JasonAndreas
993s normally break at the hinge/pin on the a-pillar and the 964 suffers mostly from torn metal inside the door.
Jason, your repair was a work of art. If it turns out that I have torn metal in the door, I now know what the top notch fix is.
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So what's the failure mechanism and how does replacing the door stay repair it? Could the door stay action become so stiff that it fatigues the metal? Wouldn't lubricating the rod mitigate the failure?

Or the stay could be poorly designed fighting the arc of the door hinge.

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i cut open my door, and then fabricated a piece of steel to fit. welded it in, and the fitted the door stay back.

No pictures though it does look like your original photos

K
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Ninemeister just posted about this on Facebook:
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It’s strange how #Porsche build the #aircooled 911 from 1965 to 1998 and only from 1989 do we see check strap failures. The 993 of course is notorious for breaking off the bracket from the A-post, whereas the 964 does the other end and fractures the inner skin of the door. No worries though, we can repair both:







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