I drive a 964 C2 '92 and I would like to know a little more about the possibility of changing my car into a turbo-look.
What is the price and where can I find the parts?
Are there reasons why I shouldn't do this.

Thanks,
Christophe

 

Christophe, Go with a Strosek widebody kit like this;
Paul

 

Dear Christophe,
Why not seek a genuine 1992 model year 964 widebody cab.
The cost to have the job done is very high if it is done properly. There is quite a lot of cutting and shutting required to get the required structural strength.
The value of your 964 will be reduced because now it is not original.
However if you wish to look at such mods www.fvd.de would be a good place to start.
Ciao,
Adrian
964C4

 

pfffft.
opinions opinions.

it can be done.
my car is a 77 that has been converted.
as to your question regarding where to source the parts required...
I have no idea for Europe.
sorry.

 

Hi Adrian, I cant agree with you when you say widened cars loose value.Its a known fact that I paid just 12-5 K for my car and have been offered more than this figure for the car and more than a standard 964 LHD in the same condition.Its a question of choice and where theres a lot of people who like their cars standard there is also a lot who want to buy or convert their own cars to the wide bodied look,hence all the inquires here on rennlist.Why pay for an expensive conversion when you can have the car already done? Thats the reason why people are willing to pay good prices for wide bodied cars.
Paul
C2 cab

 

Dear Paul,
It is not a matter of opinion it is a matter of fact only made variable by where you live. Here in Switzerland for instance, a converted car is worth considerably less than an original one. Regardless of model. This also flows into other countries.
If I am doing a PPI for somebody and discover it is a conversion this raises a large number of red flags for me.
Was the conversion done properly?
What was done to make the conversion?
Where will the rust form? see point 1.
The fact that people are in some places prepared to pay more for such conversions does not surprise me. However there is no getting around the fact that a converted car made to look like another is not the genuine article.
Now if it is advertised and sold under such circumstances that the new buyer knows fully well it is a conversion and we are talking RUF, targa to cab as well not just widebody and they are prepared to pay extra for that, terrific. They are aware and it is always buyer beware.
My problem is that many of these conversions are sold as genuine.
Now to give you a serious example. Somebody I know, took their almost perfect 993 C4S and had it converted by RUF into a TT. This is a conversion remember not a manufactured RUF. He thought that this would at return him what he paid. Nope value plummeted. Why? It is no longer a 993 C4S and nor is it a genuine 993TT nor is it a genuine RUF.
Now getting back to the conversions. If you see what is done to these cars to make them widebody it is scary. The potential problems later on are enormous. Especially with rust.
It looks like my C4 will be converted in the new year to a RCT Evo. I have no illusions that its value is suddenly going to rise. I am doing this for me. It becomes a RUF conversion. That is my choice. Will that money ever come back. Nope. Not intended to. My C4 ceases to be a C4 and becomes something else. Just like all other conversions.
If you can get more money for them great good on you as long as you are honest.
Ciao,
Adrian
964C4

 

Hi Adrian, Point taken,I can see the problems in the future with a wide body conversion,rust etc .Its a good point to make to rennlisters to thoroughly have the car inspected before purchase.
Nice to hear you are having your C4 RUF 'ed up,dont those standard 964's look so boring............... Oops sorry i'll get my coat
Paul
C2 cab

 

Mine will stay narrowbody. The only immediate difference you will notice is the Turbo S fixed tail and of course that you will only see the rear end unless you are in a GT-2 with an engine kit.
Ciao,
Adrian
964C4

 

A number of full body conversions in Singapore (narrow to wide body, 964 to 993, 3.2 to 964) were performed by the owners after a serious accident as a result of them deciding that since the car was damaged and no longer original, and insurance would partly cover the conversion, they might as well change the whole thing. For this reason, many body converstions are viewed with scepticism here in Singapore.

 

Adrian,

wonderful to hear of your intention to convert your car to an RCT Evo. I assume you are not going to change the front bumper to the RCT Evo look (doesnt look right on the 964 for some reason).

i would love to convert my 993 to BTR specs or Turbo R at sometime in its life, but as of yet I unfortunately dont have the funds to do so.... 45,000 euro's is quite a lot to save up!

 

Adrian,
please keep us updated on the conversion, would love to know the detail.
cheersjavascript:smilie('')

 

I will keep everyone up to date. Alois Ruf is building his RCT Evo at the moment for his daily driver and mine should be next on the list.
Harold I am not sure what you mean about the front bumper. The RCT Evo I drove and is on my web site uses that standard 964 bumper with the fog lights replaces with brake cooling ducts. I know the bumper design you speak of but I have never seen this on an Evo. Mind you I have only seen three and they were all at Ruf. Coupe, Targa and Cab.
Ciao,
Adrian
964C4

PS: For the record Alois Rufs favourite 911 of all time is the 964.

 

Adrian,
two of my friend have Ruf vin car, one is 964 coupe and other is cab, both are tip. It's not a turbo version but from logo is said CR2. any idea on this conversion? I want to do the same, their car seem alot faster than mine i couldn't catch up with them.
Are u going to fit ruf wheel like the picture on your site?
cheers
tenn