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Old 11-17-2018, 06:58 PM
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I verified the reference sensors were attached to the correct wiring harness connectors but have not verified the sensor gap. Attached another longer starting attempt with the VEMS and Triggerlog.
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How do you access the trigger log function of the VEMS software?

I don't see any sort of voltage scale in your screenshots, but I would start by checking the speed/reference mark sensor gaps. It is possible that the mechanic who worked on the car removed the adjustable sensor bracket instead of pulling the individual sensors before the bell housing was removed.
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Originally Posted by Droops83
How do you access the trigger log function of the VEMS software?

I don't see any sort of voltage scale in your screenshots, but I would start by checking the speed/reference mark sensor gaps. It is possible that the mechanic who worked on the car removed the adjustable sensor bracket instead of pulling the individual sensors before the bell housing was removed.
The trigger log function is in the tools menu. Checking the sensor gap will be difficult without an old sensor to glue a washer to. I do believe that it is possible that the sensor bracket was not reinstalled with the correct gap but I was hoping to verify that this is the primary issue prior to ordering a used sensor to use to check the gap.
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Originally Posted by nick.cfrancis
The trigger log function is in the tools menu. Checking the sensor gap will be difficult without an old sensor to glue a washer to. I do believe that it is possible that the sensor bracket was not reinstalled with the correct gap but I was hoping to verify that this is the primary issue prior to ordering a used sensor to use to check the gap.
Just use Elmer's glue or similar on one of the existing sensors, will stick enough for using a washer to set the gap but is easy to clean off.
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Originally Posted by Droops83
Just use Elmer's glue or similar on one of the existing sensors, will stick enough for using a washer to set the gap but is easy to clean off.
Thank you for the idea, unfortunately that presents too much risk for losing custody of the washer in the clutch housing.
Does anybody have a trigger logs from a running 951 to compare to or see any issues with the logs I posted?
Old 11-18-2018, 03:34 PM
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First off, I’ve mentioned this a few times, and is easiest way without loosing a washer or wasting a sensor. Build up layers on e tape on the sensor face, until the thickness is .8mm. Trim around the circle. Check/set gap. Remove tape. Done.

Second thing, which flywheel was used with push clutch? Same as before or new?
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Originally Posted by NCLA951
First off, I’ve mentioned this a few times, and is easiest way without loosing a washer or wasting a sensor. Build up layers on e tape on the sensor face, until the thickness is .8mm. Trim around the circle. Check/set gap. Remove tape. Done.

Second thing, which flywheel was used with push clutch? Same as before or new?
Ah. Good idea.
I had to switch to the LR Spec Steel flywheel with the push clutch setup: https://www.lindseyracing.com/LR/Porsche/SP-44S-2.html
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That might be the problem. Spec Scalloped flywheel? It won’t work with VEMS. Others have had this problem.
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Originally Posted by NCLA951
That might be the problem. Spec Scalloped flywheel? It won’t work with VEMS. Others have had this problem.
Oh no! I did not realize that would cause an issue. How did others resolve this?
Can you reply with any additional information, posts, or threads you have related to this issue?
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Here is the thread I have found so far:
https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...startup-3.html
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Yeah, sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but that flywheel WILL NOT work with VEMS.

No way around it. You can try and try, it WILL NOT work.

I suggest, as painful as it sounds, purchasing and installing the TTV 60-1 951 Flywheel. Only about $500, and will solve trigger issues forever. We did a group buy on them a little while back.

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Wow. That is very unfortunate; I don't believe the LR push clutch setup will work with that flywheel. I saw on the other post, they were attempting to resolve the trigger with a crankshaft trigger here: http://www.clewett.com/index.php?mai...products_id=30
Any thoughts on that idea?
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Adding a 60-1 front crank trigger would also solve it. Anything that doesn’t use the stock trigger set up and the spec fw.
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Originally Posted by NCLA951
Adding a 60-1 front crank trigger would also solve it. Anything that doesn’t use the stock trigger set up and the spec fw.
Got it! That's the same one that I found. I'll be placing an order as soon as I get confirmation on this plan with Peep.


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