Installed blue Phoenix ignition
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Installed blue Phoenix ignition
I bought this blue phenix ignition a few months back and finally installed it. I plan to install water injection also so I'm not done with the whole project, just this part. Cost $530 for the contr unit and the diode spark strip. Just something to try...
I used a broken lower 951 air box and cut it up for the base.
I used a broken lower 951 air box and cut it up for the base.
#3
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Yea it supposed to make the spark like that of a welder. On the track the spark plugs only last one race on high ignition mode. On low ignition mode the plugs last 5000 miles. Or you can run it "off" and just have regular ignition with copper core plugs that have to be changed out regularly, also have to run copper core wire from the diode strip to the plugs. With the spark on high with water injection, it's so powrfull of a spark it combusts water vapor, hence why I want water injection also. Check it out on YouTube. It's under "blue phenix ignition".
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The next step would be stand alone engine management with coil on plug. Blue Phoenix has coil on plugs also for other cars, like Hondas, and would work on the DOHC I'm biulding now. I'm not a fan of waste spark beacuse if your going to put more coils into the mix might as well have one for each cylinder and not try and scavenge power from the weak side of the coil (even thou it is enough to spark get the job done). And waste spark doesn't ignite water vapor(nor any regular coil). So that's why. A very bright and big plasma kernel comes off this blue Phoenix unit.
Last edited by Humboldtgrin; 09-09-2015 at 01:43 PM.
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I found another awesome upgrade!
I couldn't leave that spot blank! So I found a spot for my first 944 turbo.<br/>It did add 50g to the overall wieght of the front without much/any power adding value. Should I consider it a weight balancer? Tell people that piece helps keep the front end down at high speeds.
I couldn't leave that spot blank! So I found a spot for my first 944 turbo.<br/>It did add 50g to the overall wieght of the front without much/any power adding value. Should I consider it a weight balancer? Tell people that piece helps keep the front end down at high speeds.
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Cool. Now if you get into an accident, you damage two 944 turbo's at once.
I'm really interested in the plasma spark. I'm especially interested in seeing a dyno sheet with and without water injection.
I'm skeptical of a lot of things like this because it seems that if it's as good as it sounds, it would be used on production vehicles - but in this case I can see why manufacturers would not do this just for a few more HP or slightly better economy & emissions. Imagine a maintenance schedule that required spark plug changes with every oil change. The increased cost of maintenance probably wouldn't even offset the fuel savings. I'm sure that would be a complete failure in the production car marketplace, despite having (supposedly) lower emissions.
I'm really interested in the plasma spark. I'm especially interested in seeing a dyno sheet with and without water injection.
I'm skeptical of a lot of things like this because it seems that if it's as good as it sounds, it would be used on production vehicles - but in this case I can see why manufacturers would not do this just for a few more HP or slightly better economy & emissions. Imagine a maintenance schedule that required spark plug changes with every oil change. The increased cost of maintenance probably wouldn't even offset the fuel savings. I'm sure that would be a complete failure in the production car marketplace, despite having (supposedly) lower emissions.
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Spark on yt looks awesome. Did you notice any difference after installing it?
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I haven't even started the car yet. It's still in the air. More work ahead. But when I get it dyno'd I'll post the findings. Still have to buy and install the water injection kit. I'm putting a 5 gallon resivoir in the spare tire area and using a fuel return line from another parts car to deliver the water to the engine bay. Just wanted to show what I've been up to, maybe give others ideas as well.
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FYI, there is an alternative windshield wiper fluid tank (I think from early 944's) that's much larger than the ones on our cars. Might be a much easier option, and allow you to keep the spare in the car. For the track, I wouldn't want the extra weight riding that far out in the back. Might help putting the power down off of the corners, but not going in and through the corners.
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I have an early wiper bottle. But I'm using it as a tripple purpose head light sprayer/ windshield sprayer and intercooler sprayer on its own 15 psi switch. You can see that set up on the left with the p/s resivoir. So was thinking put ithe resivoir in the back. That would ad about 45 lbs with a 5 gallon tank or I can use a two gallon unit at 17 lbs. that would be better.
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Yes. As far as I know it will need to be tuned to use. I will find out one day when I get to a tuner shop. The car is overgoing some more modification before going. It won't be turned on for the mean time. Just had to get if off my desk.