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Although I'm pretty sure my build is not at all going to comply with the B-group 951 homologation, out of curiosity I'm one step before buying one directly from FIA - does anyone here have the homologation charts or scans of it? can you share it?
edit - I ordered it a minute ago. They take about 2 weeks to deliver..
Now that is interesting, never knew 951 had B group homologation..
I'm definitely interested in this too. How much did you pay? Also, when you buy it, do you provide them with your VIN and the certificate applies directly to your vehicle or is it a blank certificate for any 951?
Interesting error. Looks like even 3.0L builds are 450cc short..
Yup, 944turbo (yes - only turbo) received it on June, 1st, 1986. - Ironic, keeping in mind that B-group rally ended that year.. A pity, cause we'd otherwise have videos of 944s gracefully flying (literally) over some gravel hills..
It's not only a certificate, it's supposed to be a complete list of elements requisite and/or allowed for a 944 turbo to be compliant with the legendary FIA B-group. They require you to have the book on the technical check before some races.. Same like in the modern WRC. If the examining staff has doubts whether the car complies with the rules, they look it up in your personal homologation book. This way they don't need to memorize by heart what is and what's not allowed in every single vehicle..
I don't know what's needed in other countries in order to buy it, cause FIA homologation books are distributed through national automobilism organizations. I can tell you it cost me 50EUR and I did not have to tell them any details of my car other than make, model, MY and displacement, but in Slovenia it may be very different.
As far as I know, you have to fill the thing with the details such as VIN and photos of the exact car, but i'll know for sure when I see how the book actually looks like.. I know some people had problems with other makes, and received photocopies of the actual books, only stamped with some official FIA stamps. I hope I get the real deal though.. Should look nice on my themed shelf
I found an example of FiA homologation for Citroen Visa GTi on the interwebs, and it has 26 pages.. It has pictures of head on and off the engine, combustion chambers, pictures of under bonnet view and so forth, 16V will not go under the radar if 951 homologation is similar to this one..
All the details. As I said - I am sure my build breaks most of the rules. I want the book out of curiosity while it is still possible to get it. Especially when it's not that expensive.
As for the displacement error you mentioned - It's not a mistake at all. You can see the true displacement in the bracket next to the name of the car. then in the next column you have the multiplier the rules required for the type of engine (single turbo forced induction, possibly some other aspects also in consideration too).. in 951's case the multiplier is x1.4 next column is the result of the calculation.. 3470 It had to be introduced to somewhat equalize chances between n/a and forced induction engines.
Fun fact - there actually is a mistake in displacement - but in Group4 924turbo homologation - they forgot to write true displacement and multiplier, and in other 924turbo they sometimes count 2777 and sometimes 2778cm3..
I have the original FIA homologation group B. I can send to you if you send your emails, but you have to give me some time to scan all the pages.
The homologation chart has not so much modifications from the standard car, that is to say you can modify infinetely superior a car today, but I bought because I built a 944 Turbo Rally car.
Hi, I would be very interested in this . Could you email a copy to me please ? simonglawrence@gmail.com
Just bought an 04/1986 turbo which I believe could qualify.
Regards
I have the original FIA homologation group B. I can send to you if you send your emails, but you have to give me some time to scan all the pages.
The homologation chart has not so much modifications from the standard car, that is to say you can modify infinetely superior a car today, but I bought because I built a 944 Turbo Rally car.
I don't know what's needed in other countries in order to buy it, cause FIA homologation books are distributed through national automobilism organizations.
Hej Krzysztof, did you get it from PZMot? Where exactly should I call? It would be nice to have it for my Turbos, my buddy driving '94 Celica GT-Four would be so jealous...
Thanks! I'll order it this week.
BTW. I'm pretty sure I spoke to you one time, either looking for some parts or your S2 for sale. World is small indeed...
Nice. It is indeed. Our regional transaxle ethusiasts world is even smaller
I sold the s2 a month ago or so and I'm very unhappy with that. I never really liked the s2 like I like the turbo, but now that I don't have it, and daily drive an old Mercedes I miss the 944 a lot.. Such a great car that one was..
As for the homologation book delivery - don't believe in the two weeks' quote - It took them almost exactly a month in my case.
04-21-2015, 03:55 AM
FIA B284 - B-Group Porsche 944 turbo homologation
