Cyberpunky

Although owning one of these cars has meant learning as much as I can, as quick as I can, I still feel way too intimidated to use a stand alone. I know this place has great support and an awesome community but for now plug and play is a much better option for me, as I would still be worried about setting something wrong and damaging something. I am going M tune as I think it is one of the best plug and play options developed for our vehicles, and it also has the capability of tweaking things if I decide too, down the track. Clearly both options have merit and it's a matter of what suits your needs and goals better.

Kris H

I am also gonna tune my 2,5 16V project with the beforementioned polish product.. For those who eat with their eyes, this is what came with my Ecumaster EMU standalone pack (plus a few goodies eg. a t-shirt, but they're irrelevant). it obviously was additionally packed with bubblefoil and stuff:



This is not an ad, and i'm NOT affiliated with the company in any way.

- Standalone computer,
- Connecting ports,
- CD with tuning software and manuals,
- tuning cable (regular usb-usb)
- a lot of wires to make the harness
- connectors for the wires
- MAC electronic valve
- bosh wideband sensor

the lot was just under 750 USD.. just food for thought - keep in mind though, that with this, you'd need to make the harness and tune from scratch..

Voith

Standalone is not plug&play and requires a lot of work and user involvement but provides infinitely variable engine configurations.

Tuning upgrades like M tune are almost completely plug&play, but assume stock or close to stock hardware configuration. It can be tuned for different configurations, but someone must tune it just like standalone.

I too think M tune is one of, if not the best upgrade to stock car and factory engine management.



Refpotsirk: where did you bought it from?

I also love the fact that there is no BS customs and VAT costs since it is from Europe. Buying this kind of stuff from usa always costs me ~30% more because of shipping and $#%& stupid rip-off laws.

Kris H

Voith - I bought it directly form their site. And I fully agree with you on customs.. I've approached overseas transactions a few times already, and probably "upset" a few people here, for which I feel I should apologise.. because it turned out not even once could I bear the additional costs like insane freight, sky high customs and more than cruel taxes i would have to pay afterwards :/

Back to your interest in the ECU - Not sure about the VAT - I had to pay it, but I'm a physical person within Poland, so if you buy it to Slovenia it might be a bit different..

ps: I think i have to change my stupid login somehow.. It's unpronouncable, unmemorizable and makes next to no sense at all.. Artifact of my schoolyears long time ago..

blade7

Same here and how about Wossner custom pistons that originated from the EU .

Voith

I buy a lot of parts from usa and from rennlist users and I never had any problems.

I always pay price + shipping and then deal with our customs by myself. Seller has nothing to do with customs here.

You pay VAT once your purchase is in customs if you buy from outside europe.

You pay whatever tax country of origin has + tax and customs on value and on shipping price, which is ridiculous, but thats how it works.

Tell me about it I had to pull all sorts of hat tricks to get my pistons from usa trough customs and not bankrupt in the process.

KSira

Looks like great value for money.

Does this support stock trigger sensors? I had to use a 60-2 Setup to get my Link G4+ Stom working properly, even if it is supposed to support stock trigger sensors. I could maybe have made it work with a oscilloscope and lots of tweaking, but in the end I decided it was much cheaper to buy a sensor setup that worked, than trying to sort out the misfire on high RPM and killing my engine in the process. So my advice is to be very careful if using stock trigger sensors

Voith

I will use 60-2 with cam sync in front. I hate stock sensor obsoleteness, location and type. Trigger(s) should be the most bulletproof part of the system. No ecu will work good with intermittent signaling.

Thom

I am almost finished tuning a custom Audi RS2 engine with a 60-2 trigger set up on a Link G4+ Extreme and it works great, with sequential fueling/spark.

blade7

I was told Wossner have asked their US dealers not to sell to Europe

Voith

Why? Isnt wossner from Germany?? Why don't you call the germans and demand pistons?

Also if you want wossner from usa, create US forwarding mailbox and let them forward it to you.

azbanks

Or get a US RL member to buy them and ship them to you.
(How about a 2 for 1 deal? You send me money to buy 2 sets and I'll ship you 1 set. )

blade7

Because I believe for custom pistons you have to give Wossner all the dimensions, and they charge the same as buying and importing from the US. In any case I have family in Arizona.

blade7

Or you send a set to me and I'll send you some money .

azbanks

Just so we don't derail this thread any further, I'll have my Nigerian business manager contact you for the details.