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Old 02-11-2013, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by refresh951 View Post
I will be interested in Joshua's comments. Seems like spark duration is the issue with a CDI setup. I think the spark would be brighter but have less duration. Seems CDI does have advantages in certain situations such as high oil content or very lean environments but that running an inductive setup should be better for our cars.
Yep, exactly. There are a few "tricks" that are misleading in some of the display set ups. For example, if you open up the gap, the spark will appear much brighter than a tight gap.

Amperage is what actually ignites the air/fuel; voltage is just needed too jump the gap...
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Great thread, thanks.

I will be interested in your calculations for the D585 coils in a CDI application as I have been unable to find all their relevant specs.
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Great thread, thanks.

I will be interested in your calculations for the D585 coils in a CDI application as I have been unable to find all their relevant specs.
I have both the D585 and Ign-1A coils coming in to test. For those who don't aren't familiar with these coils, they are supposed to be one of the best coils for the LS-series GM V8 engines.
Additionally, I will see if I can get an MSD box hooked up to show its operation on the scope.
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@joshua: i found this, is it the same that you tested?
http://www.ebay.it/itm/181038327618?...84.m1438.l2649
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Originally Posted by joker2cv View Post
@joshua: i found this, is it the same that you tested?
http://www.ebay.it/itm/181038327618?...84.m1438.l2649
That is close... The version I tested was the MSD Blaster high vibration, part number 8222.
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Look what showed up today from Summit!

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Originally Posted by lart951 View Post
question how do I change the ignition dwell map to account for the HVC II col?
That simple Lart - just change the gap on the points......
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Originally Posted by refresh951 View Post
Look what showed up today from Summit!

Looks good!

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That simple Lart - just change the gap on the points......
Lol
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Originally Posted by refresh951 View Post
Look what showed up today from Summit!

What happens when your windshield gets dirty?
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Originally Posted by m73m95 View Post
What happens when your windshield gets dirty?
Some conveniences must be sacrificed...
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Originally Posted by refresh951 View Post
Look what showed up today from Summit!

If you call tomorrow, Magnecor can have a coil wire to your house by the weekend with the right connectors on both ends, and in any length you need.
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[quote=Tom M'Guinn;10216427]
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If you call tomorrow, Magnecor can have a coil wire to your house by the weekend with the right connectors on both ends, and in any length you need.
After reading all of this not sure if they are necessary, but I have Magnecors on four of my cars and very happy with fit, finish, quality, and longevity. Not to mention a reasonable price.
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Originally Posted by Tom M'Guinn View Post
If you call tomorrow, Magnecor can have a coil wire to your house by the weekend with the right connectors on both ends, and in any length you need.
Originally Posted by URG8RB8 View Post

After reading all of this not sure if they are necessary, but I have Magnecors on four of my cars and very happy with fit, finish, quality, and longevity. Not to mention a reasonable price.
Tom is more referring to the fact that the HVC-II coil has a standard GM HEI-style plug. The stock coil -> distributor wire will not work without changing the coil end.
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Originally Posted by Rogue_Ant View Post
Tom is more referring to the fact that the HVC-II coil has a standard GM HEI-style plug. The stock coil -> distributor wire will not work without changing the coil end.
The HVC-II comes with the coil end boot and connector so you can modify your exiting coil wire if it is long enough.
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Originally Posted by refresh951 View Post
The HVC-II comes with the coil end boot and connector so you can modify your exiting coil wire if it is long enough.
Good luck with that. I'm not a huge fan of Magnecor, but the MSD system calls for spiral core wires like that. They are lickity-split making custom wires though.

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That simple Lart - just change the gap on the points......
I still have my old analog dwell angle meter if helpful, complete with sweeping needle like guages used to have. Wait, does that make me old?
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