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Old 10-10-2012, 04:39 AM
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Found more mess when I got the head off. Plus I found the head was not o-ringed as I was led to believe. I found the #3 plug was wet, leading me to pull the head off. Here's some pics of the gasket:
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last gasket pic:
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Some of the head:
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I'll turn the engine over and get some pics of all the cylinder walls tomorrow. I did find a scratch ~1/2 the length of the stroke (bottom half) that I can catch my fingernail on on #2, kinda bummed about that:
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So is this the regular headgasket or the widefire? I'm assuming I should go widefire when I replace?
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camera *****! haha

regular HG.
i used the regular HG but new on around 400 rwhp and held up fine, until it over heated
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You still have a spare short block in the garage or was this that block?
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Widefire hg wont do a difference unless your head and block are o-ringed, is either stock or mls
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Some of the head gasket pictures show indentions that are typical of o-ringing. Do you have any pictures of the block, without the head gasket installed?
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Originally Posted by Paulyy
camera *****! haha
Yeah, probably posted too many pics but it was late and I was on autopilot.

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You still have a spare short block in the garage or was this that block?
Hi Bret - good to see you hanging around here again. Yep, still have the spare block, but am considering selling to help fund a Blown944 stroker build. It still turns silky smooooth. I'd like to keep it as a spare if'n I can afford to.

Originally Posted by lart951
Widefire hg wont do a difference unless your head and block are o-ringed, is either stock or mls
So no point in going widefire if I'm not o-ringed? I need to talk to you about a scarred short block after I get done with this Luis.

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Some of the head gasket pictures show indentions that are typical of o-ringing. Do you have any pictures of the block, without the head gasket installed?
I will post some later this evening after work. Neither the block or head appear to have o-rings. Maybe things will be more evident after I clean stuff up.


Hopefully the scratch isn't too bad to run on for a while, and it will give me more info to convince the wife I 'need' to do the stroker. I'm really, really hoping to drive her around for more than a couple weeks without finding another issue after I button things up again. And I really appreciate any/all input - thanks guys!
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What were you trying to accomplish that led to pulling the head? Just checking up on things, or looking for excuses to go with the stroker

If you want any help with anything, BTW, I'm not too far out...
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Originally Posted by lart951
Widefire hg wont do a difference unless your head and block are o-ringed, is either stock or mls
Were do you get this stuff from?

A old qute of yours >

In my experience unless you have a o-ringed head/block WF is a waste no better than stock so the real choice is either stock or MLS, the story about WF being better than stock is just a MYTH
Have any evidence of you claim "MYTH"

In my experience the normal HG did not like HIGH boost the MLS gasket we put on 2 months ago did not seal even with a machined (flat head) "guess who i got that head from". No issues with the widefire.

However i have used the WF gasket allot longer with much more abuse than i did with the normal HG before it went.
The WF gasket has beefier rings orings or not.
Having said all this i have yet to have a broken a Widefire gasket on my car .. Only reason block was taken apart were the pistonrings and bearings.


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