View Poll Results: Can a 380whp 951 beat a Ford GT?
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like the GTR for sale on eBay?
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Yes Lart, like the GTR, except you take a sawzall to the roof to reduce weight. No contest. For Ford GT money you could have one fast 944T, but I'd just buy a GT3 and happily go slower than both.
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John I think the issue is not that you are under estimating the performance of a 951 or modded 951 but you are over estimating the performance of a STOCK Gt. In your posts you keep citing 130+ traps. Maybe the GTs you have seen or ridden were modded and the owners did not want to disclose that. As we all know a forced induction motor gain 20, 30 or 50hp with simple mods or just a reflash.
That's why on the other thread I posted the power to weight numbers because in a roll race as Mud desribed is 99% of the equation. 6.8 vs 6.4 would be maybe 1-2 car lenthgs at best. He never said he smoked the GT or even beat it but that he gave it a great run for its money.
But this challenge is a very cool way to motivate us to get off our asses and step up the mods. Lol
That's why on the other thread I posted the power to weight numbers because in a roll race as Mud desribed is 99% of the equation. 6.8 vs 6.4 would be maybe 1-2 car lenthgs at best. He never said he smoked the GT or even beat it but that he gave it a great run for its money.
But this challenge is a very cool way to motivate us to get off our asses and step up the mods. Lol
Do me a favor next time you got a clear stretch of empty road. Start at 60mph and hit it in 3rd gear full boogy. Then do the same from 60mph in 5th gear and you tell me which one actually accelerates hard. Both have full boost why is 3rd so much faster? Oh gee I dunno perhaps gearing plays a part.
John the reason they outraged at you was because you kept on accusing me of proudly proclaiming that I beat a Ford GT and therefore I beat all other super cars with my four banger, which I never said I did. And you started out this thread, once again, accusing me of that. Obviously I am a little dumbfounded at your statements and to call me out on a trivial challenge is beyond me. You said money was subjective yet you bring up money. You said friendly like you really meant it but the whole time your statements are anything but friendly. You are out of the community for a while, out of 944/951 and yet you come on here talking smack like you pioneered the whole movement. There is a disconnect somewhere is your chains of thoughts and most reading your repetitive statements knows it.
I'm offering this as a way for you to prove your cars muscle at the Track. You know where people actually go to run their cars and find out where they stand for real, no traffic, no 5th gear bs. Oh I suppose that could be fun too. Why don't when you get to 60mph at the 500th-ish ft mark just throw it into 5th and race the rest of the way in that gear. Since clearly your car is so powerful you don't even need to be in the lower gears to put a hurting on cars.
I believe Sid has the fastest 944 in the community(trap speed wise). He has a real shot at running mid 130's if he gets good DA and has a nice setup dialed in and I would gladly pay up with a smile on my face. I'd love to see a 944 actually run a hard #. I would also love to see a 944 put up a hard number at the mile.
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Here's A Challenge... Porsshhhh951... I'll give ya $50 if you can quit being so god damn negetive and let people just enjoy their cars and good positive conversation for 1 week. How about that?
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Soooooooo.. How long is this wager good? You only mentioned 944. You said nothing about it's conditions. Is my V8 944 allowed in?! I'm hoping, very much, to start her in about a month. The 1/4 mile will be one of her first tracks. No nitrous this time, I promise.
Hell, you can come with me John!!! You're only hours away. Nothing but fun - as long as nothing breaks.
Hell, you can come with me John!!! You're only hours away. Nothing but fun - as long as nothing breaks.
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So here is some more "heavy hitters" (Viper, ZR-1):
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Of course non of that validates this guys crazy *** story about being able to pace a GT on it while he just casually leaves it in 5th gear with his 380hp 3.0ltr beast
Yes DA is huge. That just means that sid would be running a much lower trap speed as well. Any car needs the right conditions to run hard both the GT and the 951 are FI cars. Air temp/density will greatly affect any car with FI.
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I don't know if John understands the concept of high altitude, the higher the altitude the less dense the air equals less performance . It's like when you go to a mountain it's hard to breathe, or a plane pilot needs oxygen for high altitude flying, Oh crap Texas doesn't have mountains,
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Tell Swanders we found special tool for I am sure he is the one driving all those those fast cars.
I don't know if John understands the concept of high altitude, the higher the altitude the less dense the air equals less performance . It's like when you go to a mountain it's hard to breathe, or a plane pilot needs oxygen for high altitude flying, Oh crap Texas doesn't have mountains,
I don't know if John understands the concept of high altitude, the higher the altitude the less dense the air equals less performance . It's like when you go to a mountain it's hard to breathe, or a plane pilot needs oxygen for high altitude flying, Oh crap Texas doesn't have mountains,
That also might explain why when I moved up north I started acting funny or it could be that I'm just weird
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Down on earth (0-1000') an FGT is a monster at any speed, from a dig or a roll...but at altitude a turbo car will have the advantage over the SC, you all know this (provided similar levels of rated power output/weight).
After watching one keep up with an Enzo on the highway, they are not to be trifled with when the air is correct.
After watching one keep up with an Enzo on the highway, they are not to be trifled with when the air is correct.
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He also proved that the car gets faster at lower altitude when he went down to a ~6000DA track, compared to our normal 8000+DA.