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TonyG 07-21-2012 09:00 PM

TonyG > New Race Car Build Thread
 
Here we go....

Let me start with some history first.

There once was a race car built by Vision Motorsports 17 years ago. This happens to be the same people that build Orca, Shamoo, Flipper, and as well as several other similar 944 based race cars. The car was built for a person down here in the Los Angeles area Named Joe A.

Apparently Joe sold it to Craig V (here on Rennlist known as Landjet). Craig owned the car for several years and raced it in the PCA.

The car was a complete race car that had not run in several years (probably more than 3-4) and had been parked after an event where the car had a light engine fire. The owner reports that the engine is a little tired and has some blow by and fills up the catch can after a 45 minute race.

The car came up for sale on Rennlist and I purchased it.

I took possession of the car off the trailer on 7/14/2012.

I purchased the car for the shell and body and had intended to so a simple tub swap with all the suspension and drivetrain out of my current LS6 Red 951.

However, the "while you're in there bug" has already set in.

I have decided to take the bare tub, put it on a rotisserie and have it sand blasted, then to have the tub and interior powder coated. Then paint it, and put it all back nice and fresh as can be :-)


*Note - I will be using all my drivetrain and suspension from my red LS6 951. That said... there will be a ton of used race car parts coming up for sale sometime this weekend - on a separate thread.


** Note #2 - more pictures of the car available here: Http://www.tonygarcia.org/vision.951

TonyG 07-21-2012 09:11 PM

Here are some before pics:

TonyG

Looks like right after a fresh paint job:
http://www.tonygarcia.org/vision.951/2.jpg
http://www.tonygarcia.org/vision.951/3.jpg
.

And as it was originally before Landjet got it:

http://www.tonygarcia.org/vision.951/4.jpg
http://www.tonygarcia.org/vision.951/4.jpg
http://www.tonygarcia.org/vision.951/5.jpg

TonyG 07-21-2012 09:15 PM

And how it is now... 6 days after I took possession of it.... mu ha ha :evilgrin:

As seen... on dollies getting rolled over to the sand blaster

TonyG

http://www.tonygarcia.org/vision.951...721_132723.jpg

http://www.tonygarcia.org/vision.951...721_132659.jpg
http://www.tonygarcia.org/vision.951...721_132745.jpg
http://www.tonygarcia.org/vision.951...721_132729.jpg
http://www.tonygarcia.org/vision.951...721_132751.jpg
http://www.tonygarcia.org/vision.951...721_132805.jpg

V2Rocket 07-21-2012 09:58 PM

:cheers: would love to see this as its coming along.

also, does the trans hang from that crossbrace that the cage attaches to?

TonyG 07-21-2012 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by V2Rocket_aka944 (Post 9705078)

also, does the trans hang from that crossbrace that the cage attaches to?

The trans uses the stock hanger bar that attaches the stock location on the stock "frame rails".

TonyG

odurandina 07-21-2012 11:02 PM

congrats.

estimate of weight when done ?

White_951 07-21-2012 11:41 PM

All that room to work in.....:bowdown:

333pg333 07-22-2012 12:28 AM

Did this one have the trick front suspension Tony? If so, any pics?

lart951 07-22-2012 01:28 AM

I thought this was the copy of Orca

https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...ml#post8513939

TonyG 07-22-2012 02:15 AM


Originally Posted by lart951 (Post 9705443)
I thought this was the copy of Orca

https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...ml#post8513939

I don't know....

Orca (and my car) are semi-tube frame chassis cars. As you can see from the pics of my car (which is the same for Orca), the cars have firewalls behind the driver. From that point back it's all tube frame. Likewise, from the strut towers forward it's all tube frame. And the cage on both cars extends through the front firewall with 4 bars to the strut towers.

These cars were acid dipped and stitch welded chassis.

These were cheater cars. Meant to comply with rules that said you had to have the stock firewall and stock suspension mounting points. These cars are examples of how you go to the absolute edge of the line... but don't cross it.


The car you have, on the other hand, looks like a stock chassis with a cage. I can't see from the pics if the cage ties in the strut towers or not. But I can see that there's no firewall behind the driver and I can see that all of the factory sheet metal structure (at least most of it) is present in the rear of the car. Also the floor pan appears to be stock.

The cage appears to be of their design... but it looks like the cage and car... was intended to be a street legal car.

It looks like a project that ran out of money!

The body work is also not what I've seen on any of their cars, but that doesn't mean much. The body work looks pretty nice and I could see them using it.

You should have taken the body work and made some molds of it! Big mistake not to....

Vision built lots of 944's while they were into building 944's. But there are only a small handful that were built like Orca and mine (only 3 that I can think of) with respect to the chassis.

I can show these pics to Dewain and see what the story is with the car (if he even built it).

TonyG

TonyG 07-22-2012 02:17 AM


Originally Posted by 333pg333 (Post 9705352)
Did this one have the trick front suspension Tony? If so, any pics?

No. Not yet at least..... :-)

TonyG

TonyG 07-22-2012 02:19 AM


Originally Posted by lart951 (Post 9705443)
I thought this was the copy of Orca

https://rennlist.com/forums/944-turb...ml#post8513939


Hey... BTW... I need a steering shaft setup. Mine seems to have some play where it crosses through the fire wall.

You got one?

TonyG

333pg333 07-22-2012 02:19 AM

Be good to ask Dewain about that suspension too.

95ONE 07-22-2012 01:46 PM


Originally Posted by TonyG (Post 9705515)
Hey... BTW... I need a steering shaft setup. Mine seems to have some play where it crosses through the fire wall.

You got one?

TonyG


Make that two LART. I need one also. I will take a pic of it today.

m carter 07-22-2012 02:07 PM

Looks like a it will be a fun racer Tony!!!


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