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Duke 07-24-2012 05:43 AM

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disasterman 07-24-2012 08:45 AM

Tony, you can call me at my office if you want to discuss. You can find the number on my website www.iscservices.net. At my current company, ISC Services disaster restoration, we pioneered the use of soda blasting for mold remediation. Before starting this company I also have a background in OEM automotive sealers, paints and the related prep.

Sand blasting can quickly destroy the substrate and is best left to heavy cast metals. Baking soda and dry ice are sharp crystals that allow the media blaster to remove the paint or other specific surface object without deformation or sacrifice of the substrate.

Baking is actually the best way to remove everything but it is best to dip in an phosphate rinse and then e coat afterward. In the "motor city" we have those resources available, you may as well.

Droops83 07-25-2012 12:35 AM

Very cool, Tony. Can't wait to see it in action. I assume that it won't be ready in time for Laguna Seca next month, though.

I know the Joe A that you mention in the first post, he actually bought another race car from vision, the Gulf-colored 968-bodied one and will hopefully be back in action soon.

Chris White 07-25-2012 01:19 PM

Hey Tony – see what you can find out about the car in Lart’s picture. I bought it and I am going to make a bunch of changes this winter. The chassis is pretty much stock….for now!

TonyG 07-25-2012 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by Chris White (Post 9714511)
Hey Tony – see what you can find out about the car in Lart’s picture. I bought it and I am going to make a bunch of changes this winter. The chassis is pretty much stock….for now!

I will... I will be seeing Dewain next week.

Text me some pics so I can show him.

TonyG

TonyG 07-25-2012 10:05 PM

After first round of blasting. A little more to go...

TonyG


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95ONE 07-25-2012 10:20 PM

Sweet. Keep the pics coming. All that grey looks familiar.

Weston Dillard 07-27-2012 03:21 PM

Tony,

Great to see Craig's "El Camino" getting a referb!

West

TonyG 08-08-2012 02:47 AM

More updates....

8/07/12

The front end was modified. And the new Vision/Kokeln rear torsion carrier with the raised roll centers and the far more adjustable alignment setup is here! (not to mention it's much lighter...).

TonyG


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95ONE 08-08-2012 04:30 AM

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I'm impressed.. he used my spring plate version! lol.. Cool. --- Which started out as a version of his of course. :) interesting rounded end threaded tube design he has though. EDIT: - the type hes been using for the 911s!

Tony, make sure that the Spring plate offset pushes the Spring Plate to it furthest outer most position when you install it. Reverse of whats in the picture. For example.. The spring plate sets further out to one side, make sure that side is on the outer most position. (better described in pic) - UNLESS, you asked for an offset to bring the wheels closer together. (not as wide) Also, if you still have the rear brake line keepers that mount to the body where would best be described as under the rear seats facing down, Just leave them out.. Don't use them. Push them up and out of the way. The keepers on the arm will do just fine by themselves. The bar pushes everything too high to use them and makes the brake lines stress at an awkward angle. I doubt this chassis still has them honestly. Another quirk is to use spacers for the Sway bar mounts. About 1/4" for each bolt. Unless you have the special Kokeln sway bar, then it will bolt right up. Also, you might have to "dimple" in the bottom side of the seat bulges on the far sides. The end plates fight against them and wont let the roll center get quite high enough. when you push it up there, it will be evident. A small sledge hammer and something like a steel rod or bar or something sitting on the car to hammer on instead of the car itself does well here.

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TonyG 08-08-2012 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by 95ONE (Post 9749103)
I'm impressed.. he used my version! lol.. Cool. --- Which started out as a version of his of course. :) Tony, make sure that the Spring plate offset pushes the Spring Plate to it furthest outer most position. reverse of whats in the picture. For example.. The spring plate sets further out to one side, make sure that side is on the outer most position.

The whole assembly is loosely assembled. I'm not sure which orientation is correct. I just got it. I figure it will make sense when I install it.

Anyway... what's good is that the part makes sense in terms of why it's needed and how the fabrication and design are executed. And that the build quality is first class (which is no surprise since it comes from Vision Motorsports).

I think everyone that designs & fabricates these types of things sorta comes to the same conclusions about what needs to be built and why. It's just a shame that more people aren't building what 944 racers need on a regular basis.

TonyG

Julian Allen 08-08-2012 08:37 AM

That is a very nice piece! I would love to see someone incorporate Hamlin boxes into the inner mount so the entire alignment could be much easier. Really like the steel plate over the thick aluminum piece originally used.

reno808 08-08-2012 10:32 AM

Very nice

95ONE 08-08-2012 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyG (Post 9749108)
The whole assembly is loosely assembled. I'm not sure which orientation is correct. I just got it. I figure it will make sense when I install it.

Anyway... what's good is that the part makes sense in terms of why it's needed and how the fabrication and design are executed. And that the build quality is first class (which is no surprise since it comes from Vision Motorsports).

I think everyone that designs & fabricates these types of things sorta comes to the same conclusions about what needs to be built and why. It's just a shame that more people aren't building what 944 racers need on a regular basis.

TonyG


Yep. It will make itself clear as soon as you get it up there. Vision certainly rocks.

I changed the words, "my design" to "my Spring plate design" to be more concise. Then I did a search and saw that type of metal spring plate had been used on the 911's for a while. SO, LOL yeah. Many things on the bars I'm making just HAVE to me a certain way, or there are a few ways to go about it, but one way certainly stands out more than another. He has probably never seen my version of the spring plates, but did the obvious way with the steel like I did. Well said Tony.


I hear you. And if you're hinting around, I could certainly make more parts, but only if there is a need for parts that just don't exist. Right now my hands are full, but soon I will have time to move on. Call me if Dwayne can't get to something, and I will certainly make an effort to make it for you. :cheers:



Originally Posted by Julian Allen (Post 9749230)
That is a very nice piece! ..........Really like the steel plate over the thick aluminum piece originally used.

Me Too! I looked at a search and I think this is how they make the 911 Spring plates and this is just a carry over. The piece I made for my car is below.

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95ONE 08-24-2012 10:01 AM

How's this beast coming along?


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