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Old 11-08-2012, 04:15 PM
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All I have to say is ......holy crap batman.

You have the right guys on the case. This car will be special.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:52 PM
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Be interesting to see how quickly the roll centres are all sorted.
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Old 11-08-2012, 11:51 PM
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Gorgeous build, and top quality fabricating work. I'm enjoying this thread.
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Old 11-09-2012, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 333pg333 View Post
Be interesting to see how quickly the roll centres are all sorted.
It's already been pretty much done.

They have some software that they use to layout the suspension points on the car, using the GT3 suspension, long before it's installed.

Then feed the data into this laser frame rack macihne. That told them where to put everything to the 1/1000th of an inch.

However... as you can see (and from what you can't see) every aspect of the suspension and the mounting of the suspension is adjustable.

There is not much guessing or estimating going on at this shop.

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Old 11-09-2012, 03:20 PM
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Great project Tony. And it looks even better in person!

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Old 11-09-2012, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Krokodil View Post
Great project Tony. And it looks even better in person!

Cheers,
Thanks Duane. I can't wait to finish it. This is why I haven't been at the last couple of races BTW.

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Old 11-09-2012, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyG View Post
Thanks Duane. I can't wait to finish it. This is why I haven't been at the last couple of races BTW.

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So when will we see this thing on the track?
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Old 11-09-2012, 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 400hp944 View Post
So when will we see this thing on the track?
Testing is scheduled for Jan 2013.

First race is scheduled for Feb 2013.

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Old 11-09-2012, 09:24 PM
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You should reschedule. Too soon by about 2 months for any kind of racing. Pros of they can..but no way.
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Old 11-10-2012, 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 95ONE View Post
You should reschedule. Too soon by about 2 months for any kind of racing. Pros of they can..but no way.
I can't reschedule. That's when my first race of the season is. And... hell or high water... this car will be there.

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Old 11-10-2012, 12:10 AM
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Today's Update

New bracing in the engine compartment.

Hang Tilton 620 pedal set.

Almost ready for powder coating....

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Old 11-10-2012, 01:00 AM
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Cool shot of the chassis/cage/frame. Have you driven cars with and without bracing that is tied into the shock towers? Can you tell much difference in stiffness?

I think that for PCA stock classes you cannot tie in the shock towers but for your situation that is obviously irrelevant. I had thought of adding some bracing going forward from my dash bar to the front shock towers as you have.
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Old 11-10-2012, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 74goldtarga View Post
Cool shot of the chassis/cage/frame. Have you driven cars with and without bracing that is tied into the shock towers? Can you tell much difference in stiffness?

I think that for PCA stock classes you cannot tie in the shock towers but for your situation that is obviously irrelevant. I had thought of adding some bracing going forward from my dash bar to the front shock towers as you have.
Not specifically with just that mod in a before-and-after comparo... but a caged car, and especially one that has all the suspension points tied in, even more so with all the seams stitch welded, is far far stiffer than a non-caged car. That stiffness is very apparent when you set the car up. In a non-caged 951, you can actually feel the front and back of the car flexing & twisting. In order to deal with this flex, you have to run very stiff suspension. In a car that's stiff... you can run softer suspension setting and get the same feel, but with more grip and predictability.

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Old 11-10-2012, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 74goldtarga View Post
I think that for PCA stock classes you cannot tie in the shock towers but for your situation that is obviously irrelevant. I had thought of adding some bracing going forward from my dash bar to the front shock towers as you have.
As usual there is a large loop hole in the ‘stock’ class rules.
You are allowed to do just about anything if you identify it as a safety feature. For instance – you are not allowed to remove door panels or window mechanisms, unless they interfere with the roll cage. So adding door bars that protrude into the doors also allows you to remove a bunch of useless weight. Tying in the shock tower can add some extra protection in front of the driver, so you may be able to use it as a ‘safety feature’….as long as you can sell it well! BTW – tying in ‘near’ the shock tower is still just about as good.
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Old 11-10-2012, 01:47 PM
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My car is no longer stock class eligible anyway - should've just done this when my cage was built. In any case, Tony's cage looks like it adds all the necessary stiffness up front. I've never seen the inside diagonal bars before but I haven't looked at a lot of cages either.
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